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I have finally gotten my girlfriend of (almost) 6 years into metal. Let me just point out that this is a woman whose favourite pastimes are baking, knitting, sewing and macramé. Not making that up, by the way. That's really the shit she's into.

Obviously, living with me, it's been around her for years. She sometimes showed a vague interest in some of the things I played, but vague is definitely the word. It's more like "oh, here's something I don't want to instantly turn off" rather than "here's something i actually enjoy". She most certainly has never listened to any metal (other than Dio) on her own time, without being forced to. She mainly listens to old folk ala Simon & Garfunkel, Nick Drake and Bob Dylan.

Anyway, today I walk in and she's listening to Roots. As in, Roots by fucking Sepultura. BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE IT. I don't know if you guys can understand how big this is for me. Roots might represent little more than mid-90s nu-metal to some of you people, but for me.....this is like discovering your great-grandmother listening to Napalm Death. It's just than unexpected and awesome.

Wow. My whole life is going to be affected by this. I'm going to see what else I can get her in to.


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I have finally gotten my girlfriend of (almost) 6 years into metal. Let me just point out that this is a woman whose favourite pastimes are baking, knitting, sewing and macramé. Not making that up, by the way. That's really the shit she's into.

Obviously, living with me, it's been around her for years. She sometimes showed a vague interest in some of the things I played, but vague is definitely the word. It's more like "oh, here's something I don't want to instantly turn off" rather than "here's something i actually enjoy". She most certainly has never listened to any metal (other than Dio) on her own time, without being forced to. She mainly listens to old folk ala Simon & Garfunkel, Nick Drake and Bob Dylan.

Anyway, today I walk in and she's listening to Roots. As in, Roots by fucking Sepultura. BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE IT. I don't know if you guys can understand how big this is for me. Roots might represent little more than mid-90s nu-metal to some of you people, but for me.....this is like discovering your great-grandmother listening to Napalm Death. It's just than unexpected and awesome.

Wow. My whole life is going to be affected by this. I'm going to see what else I can get her in to.


Holy shit, dude! That's wicked!!! Get her into stuff like Arcturus and Covenant (Naxus Polaris). Norwegian top-notch stuff. Let her develop some good taste in Metal.

EDIT: She doesn't like Prog Rock?

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EDIT: She doesn't like Prog Rock?


Yeah, actually, she does like Prog Rock. She'll happilly listen to most classic 70s prog bands in her own time (and does), and she has enjoyed some of the more contemporary prog I've played her as well. But it's still a big jump to metal from that stuff. Very big shock to find her listening to Sepultura, without being made to, to say the least.


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EDIT: She doesn't like Prog Rock?


Yeah, actually, she does like Prog Rock. She'll happilly listen to most classic 70s prog bands in her own time (and does), and she has enjoyed some of the more contemporary prog I've played her as well. But it's still a big jump to metal from that stuff. Very big shock to find her listening to Sepultura, without being made to, to say the least.


That is a big jump, yes. I would give her a bunch of things that you might find accessible to someone just getting into Metal and have a selection of different genres in hand. You never know what she's going to like. Then again, you would've already thought of that yourself without me mentioning it.

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I'm going to see what else I can get her in to.
I don't know if I would push it. You've been with her for six years already. I assume you're in it for the long haul at that point. Let her listen to Roots. And just keep playing what you play around her.

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I have finally gotten my girlfriend of (almost) 6 years into metal. Let me just point out that this is a woman whose favourite pastimes are baking, knitting, sewing and macramé. Not making that up, by the way. That's really the shit she's into.

Obviously, living with me, it's been around her for years. She sometimes showed a vague interest in some of the things I played, but vague is definitely the word. It's more like "oh, here's something I don't want to instantly turn off" rather than "here's something i actually enjoy". She most certainly has never listened to any metal (other than Dio) on her own time, without being forced to. She mainly listens to old folk ala Simon & Garfunkel, Nick Drake and Bob Dylan.

Anyway, today I walk in and she's listening to Roots. As in, Roots by fucking Sepultura. BECAUSE SHE FELT LIKE IT. I don't know if you guys can understand how big this is for me. Roots might represent little more than mid-90s nu-metal to some of you people, but for me.....this is like discovering your great-grandmother listening to Napalm Death. It's just than unexpected and awesome.

Wow. My whole life is going to be affected by this. I'm going to see what else I can get her in to.

this is awesome! im happy for you bro. if your gonna try and get her into some metalish music go light at first. try katatonia Tonights desicion. if she likes that keep going with it and slowly get heavier and heavier. roots is pretty heavy though. this is great man. i wish i had someone who i could enjoy music with. congratulations!!! :D


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@ Nima & Trapt: She's been taking a slightly increased interest in my listening habits these last few weeks ever since I joined the staff here (although it was still a huge shock to find her listening to metal on her own accord). Very surprisingly what I've found is that when she does show an interest its usually with more extreme things, because she find them more interesting. For example, I was listening to some old Psycroptic in the car, and she thought it was really interesting. But then I was listening to some old Kamelot, and she thought it was boring (and a little gay). So I think that if anything, I actually have a better chance of getting her into extreme metal, as weird as that sounds.

@ Snake: Thanks man. Yeah, it really is something to cherish. We all talk on a metal forum because we must feel to some extent that we do not have people in our day to day lives to share this music with (at least that is the case with me). So the awesomness is not lost on me.


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I must say Bar, what you have there is very precious indeed. I had friends that I shared music with but they were guys. Our music compatibility was very high but I don't talk them anymore and it's been a very long time now. Sharing extreme music with a girl that you love is something, as you say, to cherish immensely and is a blessing to have. I'm very glad to hear it, buddy :).

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Oddly enough, an ex of mine was most intrigued by Pig Destroyer, rather than anything else I tried to hook her with. Except Dio obv.

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YEAH WHAT UP NIMA

went out last night. helped a friend with her master's thesis and she paid me back last night in beer and shots. got completely smashed, in the bar bathroom some guy asked if he could suck my dick (he first asked for a "broche", portuguese for blow job, and then asked if i spoke portuguese and said in plain terms "can i suck your penis?"". fell asleep on the bus home, when i realised i got off immediately, as it had already passed my home stop, only to find out that it had already turned around and was going my way.

this is how we roll


By being drunkards and fags? :D The "can I suck your cock" thing happened to me as well though, twice. Never by a woman. :mellow:


by being awesome. there is nothing gay about being offered oral sex, no matter who offers it to you.

yes i drank a little too much but helped for the laughs :)

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YEAH WHAT UP NIMA

went out last night. helped a friend with her master's thesis and she paid me back last night in beer and shots. got completely smashed, in the bar bathroom some guy asked if he could suck my dick (he first asked for a "broche", portuguese for blow job, and then asked if i spoke portuguese and said in plain terms "can i suck your penis?"". fell asleep on the bus home, when i realised i got off immediately, as it had already passed my home stop, only to find out that it had already turned around and was going my way.

this is how we roll


By being drunkards and fags? :D The "can I suck your cock" thing happened to me as well though, twice. Never by a woman. :mellow:


by being awesome. there is nothing gay about being offered oral sex, no matter who offers it to you.

yes i drank a little too much but helped for the laughs :)


I was just busting your balls (and definitely not licking them), that was a cool anecdote :)


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I feel like...CUNTOX MUTHA FUCKERS WITH FUCKING EXTRA CHEESE.


Yup, that describes exactly how I feel.


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Holy shit, seems like I missed a lot these past days. At first I thought "Fuck, that's awesome Nima!" and then "Fuck, that's awesome Bar!". So uhm, that's awesome guys! It's actually quite refreshing to read positivive things about girls in this thread instead of the usual depressing stuff.


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Well, since I've made this thread, like many others, into a diary of some sort, I'll give you an update on the situation at hand... :lol:

So, the date is set. I haven't spoken to her as to if she wants to grab coffee first or something and then go for dinner or the opposite. Maybe I should be making the decisions and she would just follow. At least for the first couple of dates. My french exam was, as one could say, quite horrible! I mean it was bad! I hope I get a passing grade and pass this fucking ONE YEAR COURSE! She definitely makes it easier though.

So I have no expectations upon how this date will go and no preconceived notion as to when I should be kissing her or anything. I would love to kiss her and I think of her of constantly but let's not pure emotion and nervousness settle in and delude my judgement, right? That's what I think at least. Any word to wise? Something short yet powerful and practical?

I think at this point building some strong foundation for a relationship is infinitely more important than kissing her or rushing things insofar as telling her how I truly and honestly feel about her. That will naturally come (I hope) on the second or the third date, I think.

You know, I can't go telling her: "Sweetheart, I think of you all time," that would freak her out. Fuck, who said dating is fun?

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Well, since I've made this thread, like many others, into a diary of some sort, I'll give you an update on the situation at hand... :lol:

So, the date is set. I haven't spoken to her as to if she wants to grab coffee first or something and then go for dinner or the opposite. Maybe I should be making the decisions and she would just follow. At least for the first couple of dates. My french exam was, as one could say, quite horrible! I mean it was bad! I hope I get a passing grade and pass this fucking ONE YEAR COURSE! She definitely makes it easier though.

So I have no expectations upon how this date will go and no preconceived notion as to when I should be kissing her or anything. I would love to kiss her and I think of her of constantly but let's not pure emotion and nervousness settle in and delude my judgement, right? That's what I think at least. Any word to wise? Something short yet powerful and practical?

I think at this point building some strong foundation for a relationship is infinitely more important than kissing her or rushing things insofar as telling her how I truly and honestly feel about her. That will naturally come (I hope) on the second or the third date, I think.

You know, I can't go telling her: "Sweetheart, I think of you all time," that would freak her out. Fuck, who said dating is fun?
Do not tell her that you think about her all the time!!!!! You will scare her away. Girls always talk about how they want a sensitive guy. This is not true. Maybe after you have a relationship going for awhile you can open up more but not in the beginning. She will bolt.

As for when to kiss her. You have to wait for the right moment. Generally on a first date it's at the end of the night when you drop her off. If the date goes well you will know if it's going well at the end of the night that's when you go for the kiss.

Just don't be to into her if you can help it. In my experiance I always fuck up when I really like a girl. I always try to make more out of things too early. Don't do this. It's when I don't really like a girl that she ends up falling for me. Love is a odd thing.

Just don't over think things. Be a gentlemen without being to into her and if things go good go for the kiss. I hope that helps.


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Well, since I've made this thread, like many others, into a diary of some sort, I'll give you an update on the situation at hand... :lol:

So, the date is set. I haven't spoken to her as to if she wants to grab coffee first or something and then go for dinner or the opposite. Maybe I should be making the decisions and she would just follow. At least for the first couple of dates. My french exam was, as one could say, quite horrible! I mean it was bad! I hope I get a passing grade and pass this fucking ONE YEAR COURSE! She definitely makes it easier though.

So I have no expectations upon how this date will go and no preconceived notion as to when I should be kissing her or anything. I would love to kiss her and I think of her of constantly but let's not pure emotion and nervousness settle in and delude my judgement, right? That's what I think at least. Any word to wise? Something short yet powerful and practical?

I think at this point building some strong foundation for a relationship is infinitely more important than kissing her or rushing things insofar as telling her how I truly and honestly feel about her. That will naturally come (I hope) on the second or the third date, I think.

You know, I can't go telling her: "Sweetheart, I think of you all time," that would freak her out. Fuck, who said dating is fun?
Do not tell her that you think about her all the time!!!!! You will scare her away. Girls always talk about how they want a sensitive guy. This is not true. Maybe after you have a relationship going for awhile you can open up more but not in the beginning. She will bolt.

As for when to kiss her. You have to wait for the right moment. Generally on a first date it's at the end of the night when you drop her off. If the date goes well you will know if it's going well at the end of the night that's when you go for the kiss.

Just don't be to into her if you can help it. In my experiance I always fuck up when I really like a girl. I always try to make more out of things too early. Don't do this. It's when I don't really like a girl that she ends up falling for me. Love is a odd thing.

Just don't over think things. Be a gentlemen without being to into her and if things go good go for the kiss. I hope that helps.


That does help. The matter of the fact is, I've date plenty. But none of them went anywhere because of my ridiculous and other times illogical expectations. I believe in honesty but not in all cases like dating a girl. After all, they do have some deterministic factors in their nature that can only handled when the play is right. Not too much attention but attention when needed. Timing is everything I suppose. The thing I have in mind is to play naturally, have patience and don't rush anything. It either will develop into very strong feelings for each other or it won't. That's just a reality! Or let's say she will develop strong feelings for me or she won't or I just have no clue if she does or not in the future to come.

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Define Infinity wrote:
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Define Infinity wrote:
Well, since I've made this thread, like many others, into a diary of some sort, I'll give you an update on the situation at hand... :lol:

So, the date is set. I haven't spoken to her as to if she wants to grab coffee first or something and then go for dinner or the opposite. Maybe I should be making the decisions and she would just follow. At least for the first couple of dates. My french exam was, as one could say, quite horrible! I mean it was bad! I hope I get a passing grade and pass this fucking ONE YEAR COURSE! She definitely makes it easier though.

So I have no expectations upon how this date will go and no preconceived notion as to when I should be kissing her or anything. I would love to kiss her and I think of her of constantly but let's not pure emotion and nervousness settle in and delude my judgement, right? That's what I think at least. Any word to wise? Something short yet powerful and practical?

I think at this point building some strong foundation for a relationship is infinitely more important than kissing her or rushing things insofar as telling her how I truly and honestly feel about her. That will naturally come (I hope) on the second or the third date, I think.

You know, I can't go telling her: "Sweetheart, I think of you all time," that would freak her out. Fuck, who said dating is fun?
Do not tell her that you think about her all the time!!!!! You will scare her away. Girls always talk about how they want a sensitive guy. This is not true. Maybe after you have a relationship going for awhile you can open up more but not in the beginning. She will bolt.

As for when to kiss her. You have to wait for the right moment. Generally on a first date it's at the end of the night when you drop her off. If the date goes well you will know if it's going well at the end of the night that's when you go for the kiss.

Just don't be to into her if you can help it. In my experiance I always fuck up when I really like a girl. I always try to make more out of things too early. Don't do this. It's when I don't really like a girl that she ends up falling for me. Love is a odd thing.

Just don't over think things. Be a gentlemen without being to into her and if things go good go for the kiss. I hope that helps.


That does help. The matter of the fact is, I've date plenty. But none of them went anywhere because of my ridiculous and other times illogical expectations. I believe in honesty but not in all cases like dating a girl. After all, they do have some deterministic factors in their nature that can only handled when the play is right. Not too much attention but attention when needed. Timing is everything I suppose. The thing I have in mind is to play naturally, have patience and don't rush anything. It either will develop into very strong feelings for each other or it won't. That's just a reality! Or let's say she will develop strong feelings for me or she won't or I just have no clue if she does or not in the future to come.
Exacltly. Relationships are totally strange. Once it actaully developed into one it gets easier but in the beginning not so much. Girls are wired very different than men. We want what we want but girls are just conundrums. They say they want one thing but they really want the opposite. It's very fustrating. But I wish you a lot of luck and hope all goes well. Keep us informed.


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It's when I don't really like a girl that she ends up falling for me. Love is a odd thing.
Story of my life. Sadly, I never end up liking them back. For the last two years, I've ended up liking the ones who don't want me :(

"deterministic facts in their nature"? You kill me, DI.

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