Metal Reviews

Sins. Give examples, please.

Excerpts from a list of major sins:

12. Interest(Riba)
17. Pride and arrogance
20. Gambling
46. Believing in fortune-tellers and astrologers
49. Lamenting, wailing, tearing the clothing, and doing other things of this sort when an affliction befalls
56. Men's wearing silk and gold

Fascists.

No, from what I read in the Green book it was rubbish plain and simple.

I said probably a dictator. From what I understand Ayatollahs seem to be essentially that. So how are these Middle Eastern countries succeeding in running their government and ruling their people? Marx isn't perfect? Well neither are your Muslim nations. Blame American intervention that's what we, Marxists, do.

Ah so now it's ok to treat people like second class citizens cause they're not drinking your kool aid?

Being proud of you're accomplishments? Fuck anti-humanist stances.

Grieving is a sin or am I missing something in the phrasing?

56. The sin of dandyism, or a stealthy reference to homosexuality?

Uh, there are no Islamic countries in existence and haven't been for ages, not from the perspective of a Sunni. There is a Shi'a Islamic country but you can see how well that's worked out (not very). Ayatollahs are a Shi'a thing, dude. The rest of the Muslim countries are either monarchies with semi-Sharia/a heavy dose of tribal traditions or flawed democracies with semi-Sharia/a heavy dose of tribal traditions.



monsieur, the first priority of the Islamic state is ensuring and safeguarding the Islamic character of the Muslims within that state. As non-Muslims are incapable of molding an Islamic state to do that, they would be unable to vote. However, the same would be true for most Muslims (including myself), at least those who haven't studied tenets of Fiqh (Islamic law) and Sharia for a few years at Madrassa. I use the term 'enlightened community of believers' as it is used in the Qur'an.

Grieving isn't a sin per se, it is the making of the spectacle while grieving. I would be lying if I said I knew why.

What's your new Muslim name? Here's a totally sensible list you could choose from:

Elijah Muhammed
Ra'as Al Ghul
Osama bin Laden
Mustapha Bis'qit
Muhammed Suiçmez
Yussef Islam
Karim Al-Jabbar

you forgot Louis Farrakhan and Baitullah Mehsud!

nah, Muhammad (peace be unto him) in his wisdom changed only names which had a bad meaning; my names all mean good things, so no changing. When I am with my brothers, they call me Haroun instead of Aaron, but it's just Aaron in Arabic.

Apart from the humour in all this, I really think it's interesting to see how a completely liberal and progressive humanist can be subverted by faith into a mindset of complete acceptance and dogmatism to ideals that can result in being highly dangerous. Do you consider Allah to be both omniscient and omnipotent? You know that's a logical impossibility, right?

On a different note, DM might find this interesting:
http://secularhumanism.org/docs/bauer_m ... ourney.pdf

Maybe this will explain it:
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... f_ipsecsha

'subverted'

'dangerous'

*posts articles purporting to explain my 'psychological problems' from your secular humanist perspective*

you know what you are, Frigid? You're very, very full of yourself despite having done nothing to earn it.

you're also very funny, trying to snipe at Allah by saying that something he is is a 'logical impossibility,' that's absolutely fantastic. Allah, who transcends logic, is impossible by the rules of logic! I'll be durned sideways, hu-yuck.

Now if you will excuse me, it is time for the morning prayer.

EDIT - oh, and might I point out about the serotonin thing- i have done drugs. I know what serotonin feels like. This was not serotonin, thank ya very much. But of course, as a brain-atrophied religious person, I couldn't possibly approach the heights of intellect that you, a secular humanist genius, scale daily.

I used those terms because they accurately describe what happened to you.
And yay for ad hoc arguing. You're as bad as the creationists- "God is beyond time and space". Also an impossibility. You've become completely oblivious to things like logic or reason, which despite applying in every micro-instance of your quotidian life, go out the window when it comes to god. And no, the article I posted for you was not a "psychological explanation", it was the story of an American girl who also converted to Islam for reasons that so far seem to be similar to yours. Of course, she became an apostate (isn't the penalty for that death?) 7 years later, and is even now still recovering from the torture that she went through.

You people should stop masturbating with your heads, drink more whiskey and listen to more metal.

If you cared even the slightest bit about accuracy you wouldn't make stupid claims like that. I explained the apostate thing like, three pages ago, but you don't care. I beg thee, secular humanist, make haste from this place. We have nothing to say to one another now and we never will again.

Besides, I never really liked you anyway.

EDIT - I mean, look at this. At least try not to argue such imbecilic things. 'Allah cannot be beyond time and space, because that is an impossibility!' Yeah cause I definitely didn't address why that is a stupid argument, like, pages ago. You cannot explain Allah with logic because it is like a man who only speaks Swahili trying to translate something in Tagalog into cuneiform.

Sorry, I missed the apostasy bit.

As far as logic goes, the definition of God is simply an ever more intricate construction of ad hoc explanations designed to excuse the disproofs, et cetera. Furthermore, you being the believer have the burden of proof.

Terry Eagleton flaming Richard Dawkins

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n20/eagl01_.html

Very tl;dr, but then so is a lot of this thread, so maybe some people will find this interesting

I do not have the burden of proof because I do not care if you believe in Allah or not; I would prefer that you did, but the saying in Islam is that the believer is responsible for making Dawa (preaching) to the fifty houses in front of him, the fifty houses behind him, and the fifty houses to the right and to the left. I am not responsible for you because you are like 800,000 houses to the northeast from me.

Hm. Assume that I did live next to you. How would you go about it?