Metal Reviews

When one's arguments (whatever the matter) appear to me as idiotic, I call them idiots.
And, c'mon, idiot is not that strong an insult...

You don't consider somebody that rapes, tortures and murders a child a monster?
Interesting.

I think he can be a monster. An there are experts to evaluate if he is or not, let us do their job.
You'll concur that Hitler is another scale of monstrosity altogether.

I think he can be a monster. An there are experts to evaluate if he is or not, let us do their job.
You'll concur that Hitler is another scale of monstrosity altogether.

James Byrd, Jr. (May 2, 1949 – June 7, 1998) was an African-American who was murdered by three white men in Jasper, Texas, on June 7, 1998. Shawn Berry, Lawrence Brewer, and John King dragged Byrd behind a pick-up truck along an asphalt pavement after they wrapped a heavy logging chain around his ankles. Byrd was pulled along for about two miles as the truck swerved from side to side

It was decided that McKinney and Henderson would give Shepard a ride home.[4] McKinney and Henderson subsequently drove the car to a remote, rural area and proceeded to rob, pistol-whip, and torture Shepard, tying him to a fence and leaving him to die. According to their court testimony, McKinney and Henderson also discovered his address and intended to burglarize his home. Still tied to the fence, Shepard was discovered 18 hours later by a cyclist, Aaron Kreifels, who initially mistook Shepard for a scarecrow.[5] Shepard was in a coma.

Shepard had suffered fractures to the back of his head and in front of his right ear. He experienced severe brain-stem damage, which affected his body's ability to regulate heart rate, body temperature, and other vital functions. There also were about a dozen small lacerations around his head, face, and neck. His injuries were deemed too severe for doctors to operate. Shepard never regained consciousness and remained on full life support. While he lay in intensive care, candlelight vigils were held by the people of Laramie.[6]

Shepard was pronounced dead at 12:53 a.m. on October 12, 1998, at Poudre Valley Hospital, in Fort Collins, Colorado.[7][8][9][10]

airy fairy hippy types in the legal profession

The law should reflect community values. If the community wants scumbags to rot for the awful atrocities they've commited, the law should dispense that.

Only God knows, Val. She's almighty after all and we're but ants running directionless.

Timmendequas reportedly participated little in the treatment program offered at the ADTC. He was described by one therapist who treated him at the facility as a "whiner" who spent most of his time sleeping. Another therapist stated that she had believed that Timmendequas would eventually commit another sex crime (although she did not believe he would commit murder).

On 4 March 1995, an eight-year-old girl (unnamed for legal reasons) was abducted and sexually assaulted in Langley Green. Whiting was arrested a few weeks later after a man who knew Whiting came forward after hearing that the abductor's car had been a red Ford Sierra, which matched the description of the car that Whiting had just sold.[14]

Three months later, Whiting admitted charges of abduction and indecent assault, and was sentenced to four years in prison. The maximum sentence for the crime would have been life imprisonment; however, he received a lesser sentence because he had admitted to the crime at the earliest opportunity, although a psychiatrist who assessed Whiting after his conviction said that he was likely to re-offend once he was released.[15][16]

Whiting was released from prison in November 1997, having served 2 years and 5 months of his 4-year sentence, and was one of the first people in Britain to go on the sex offenders' register. He had been forced to serve an extra five months in prison before being released on licence as penalty for refusing to undergo a sex offenders rehabilitation course

I'm saying my values tell me death penalty is wrong whatever the crime (yes, even Hitler, Stalin, Polpot, Mao, etc.). Tell you the truth, I'm a little tired of this endless discussions which have never made either you or me change a iota in our respective "beliefs". Where's the point, Val, where's the point?

I think he can be a monster. An there are experts to evaluate if he is or not, let us do their job.
You'll concur that Hitler is another scale of monstrosity altogether.

I don't see any inconsistency.
Would I have blown hitler's psychopath brain out, it would have been murder. We all can become murderous given the right circumstances, I'm not denying it. The thing is, DP is a long thought punishment and, this, I can't understand. How can a few people can send a man to death after seriously thinking about it is beyond me.

Some scumbag commits an atrocity as the ones I listed above, their is always a chance he gets out and commits another crime.
Death is the only guarantee that that will never happen.

I think he can be a monster. An there are experts to evaluate if he is or not, let us do their job.
You'll concur that Hitler is another scale of monstrosity altogether.