Prove that Jesus existed, bitch!

Goat · **Posted:** Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:25 pm

Brahm_K wrote:

I wouldn't say that Jesus ever caused a lot of trouble. If the NT is to be believed, then he caused trouble at the Temple and drew large crowds to himself. This would be a pertinent reason for the Romans to execute him (and the high priests to hand him over, so that one would die instead of a whole people as E.P. Sanders maintains in his "The Historical Figure of Jesus), but it wouldn't really mean he caused a large amount of trouble in comparison to others being executed at the same time.

But the Romans were very meticulous, no? Lots of records about taxes and stuff, yet not one mention of Yoshkie?

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Brahm_K wrote:

Zad wrote:

HumanTorch wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

I thought there was proof that the man excisted, but not that he had anything to do with preaching about God and all.

There are a couple of historical references by Josephus but their authenticity is in doubt. All other references are well after his life, so they could just be unknowingly referring to the myth.

You'd think a Jewish upstart who caused so much trouble would get a mention, wouldn't you? Incredible how many people have been taken in, and the amount of blood spilt over it.

I wouldn't say that Jesus ever caused a lot of trouble. If the NT is to be believed, then he caused trouble at the Temple and drew large crowds to himself. This would be a pertinent reason for the Romans to execute him (and the high priests to hand him over, so that one would die instead of a whole people as E.P. Sanders maintains in his "The Historical Figure of Jesus), but it wouldn't really mean he caused a large amount of trouble in comparison to others being executed at the same time.

Note the 'if the NT is to be believed.' Why should it be believed? Has it been verified by historical experts? Has it passed every test put to it throughout the years? Are the laws it tells us to live by still relevant?

(The answers to the above are no, no, and no respectively.)

Misha · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:31 am

Dead Machine wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Zad wrote:

HumanTorch wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

I thought there was proof that the man excisted, but not that he had anything to do with preaching about God and all.

There are a couple of historical references by Josephus but their authenticity is in doubt. All other references are well after his life, so they could just be unknowingly referring to the myth.

You'd think a Jewish upstart who caused so much trouble would get a mention, wouldn't you? Incredible how many people have been taken in, and the amount of blood spilt over it.

I wouldn't say that Jesus ever caused a lot of trouble. If the NT is to be believed, then he caused trouble at the Temple and drew large crowds to himself. This would be a pertinent reason for the Romans to execute him (and the high priests to hand him over, so that one would die instead of a whole people as E.P. Sanders maintains in his "The Historical Figure of Jesus), but it wouldn't really mean he caused a large amount of trouble in comparison to others being executed at the same time.

Note the 'if the NT is to be believed.' Why should it be believed? Has it been verified by historical experts? Has it passed every test put to it throughout the years? Are the laws it tells us to live by still relevant?

(The answers to the above are no, no, and no respectively.)

Ok, I think I'm convinced. But what about the Orcs?

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Gast1 wrote:

Ok, I think I'm convinced. But what about the Orcs?

Silly Gast, the Orcs are a race from space that consumes all that lives. They are concerned with destroying everything in their path in a brutal rampage of war-lust. Blood and death and torment.

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

One spray puts your average bloodthirsty orc out of comission! Call today! Only $169.95 plus shipping and handling fee of 123,193 and your left kidney! Call today at 1-222-222-2222.

Misha · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:36 am

Dead Machine wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

Ok, I think I'm convinced. But what about the Orcs?

Silly Gast, the Orcs are a race from space that consumes all that lives. They are concerned with destroying everything in their path in a brutal rampage of war-lust. Blood and death and torment.

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

One spray puts your average bloodthirsty orc out of comission! Call today! Only $169.95 plus shipping and handling fee of 123,193 and your left kidney! Call today at 1-222-222-2222.

Hey! I was being serious!

Anonymous · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:21 am

All I know is that Jesus never would have arisen during a time of mass media.

Jesus Exposed As a Fisher of Young, Impressionable Gay Men

Radagast · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:16 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Gast1 wrote:

Ok, I think I'm convinced. But what about the Orcs?

Silly Gast, the Orcs are a race from space that consumes all that lives. They are concerned with destroying everything in their path in a brutal rampage of war-lust. Blood and death and torment.

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

Wouldn't that be Orks?[/geek]

Radical Cut · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:19 am **Posts:** 960

HumanTorch wrote:

All I know is that Jesus never would have arisen during a time of mass media.

Jesus Exposed As a Fisher of Young, Impressionable Gay Men

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

Radagast wrote:

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

Wouldn't that be Orks?[/geek][/quote]

*Raised Eyebrow*

Carnifex Umbris · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:03 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

Radagast wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

Wouldn't that be Orks?[/geek]

*Raised Eyebrow*

No, "orc" is correct.

Edit: Freaking html...

Radagast · **Posted:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:08 pm

Carnifex Umbris wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Radagast wrote:

Dead Machine wrote:

Good thing that I have this handy... ORC REPELLANT!

Wouldn't that be Orks?[/geek]

*Raised Eyebrow*

No, "orc" is correct.

Edit: Freaking html...

Not in Warhammer 40k its not. Which I have actually never played, but often read boxes saying "Its ORC you fucks!"

Seriously, [/geek] Oh crap its not working!

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