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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Hit or Miss: System Of A Down |
Well, in honor of me buying and enjoying Toxicity today, I thought I'd poll everybody on how they feel about SOAD. Judging from Toxicity, I think they're pretty good. I don't even know why they're labeled "nu-metal" since there's really nothing "nu" about them. They're basically what the Dead Kennedys would sound like if they were a metal band. |
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| Author: | Dead Machine [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:19 am ] |
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Miss. While their songs sound cool at first, you eventually realize that they have the same problem as Cannibal Corpse, namely, that all their riffs sound pretty much the same. Plus I really dislike the new album thanks mainly to Daron Malakian. |
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| Author: | lizardtail [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:26 am ] |
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Agreed with Dead Machine, mostly.. but Toxicity does stand up as a good CD, I still listen to it from time to time. |
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| Author: | Orion [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:16 am ] |
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They have some cool songs but on a whole they are a miss. |
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| Author: | WinterIsComing [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:40 am ] |
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obviously a hit |
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| Author: | unknownkadath666 [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:58 am ] |
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pretty cool i have never heard them compared to the dead kennedys before but that is a pretty good comparision |
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| Author: | WinterIsComing [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:03 am ] |
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Dead Machine wrote: Miss. While their songs sound cool at first, you eventually realize that they have the same problem as Cannibal Corpse, namely, that all their riffs sound pretty much the same.
Plus I really dislike the new album thanks mainly to Daron Malakian. Not all music is about riffs, good riffs is nice, but it by itself does not make or break sort of speak bands and albums. |
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| Author: | WinterIsComing [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hit or Miss: System Of A Down |
Seinfeld26 wrote: Well, in honor of me buying and enjoying Toxicity today, I thought I'd poll everybody on how they feel about SOAD. Judging from Toxicity, I think they're pretty good. I don't even know why they're labeled "nu-metal" since there's really nothing "nu" about them. They're basically what the Dead Kennedys would sound like if they were a metal band.
I kind of think of them as a sillier, happier, crazier Rage Against the Machine. |
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| Author: | Dead Machine [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:38 am ] |
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WinterIsComing wrote: Not all music is about riffs, good riffs is nice, but it by itself does not make or break sort of speak bands and albums.
That's true, but riffs are a huge part of metal music. If you can't write good riffs, then usually your metal music won't be very good. Of course, there are exceptions, but I don't happen to think that System of a Down is one of them. |
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| Author: | Metalhead_Bastard [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hit or Miss: System Of A Down |
WinterIsComing wrote: Seinfeld26 wrote: Well, in honor of me buying and enjoying Toxicity today, I thought I'd poll everybody on how they feel about SOAD. Judging from Toxicity, I think they're pretty good. I don't even know why they're labeled "nu-metal" since there's really nothing "nu" about them. They're basically what the Dead Kennedys would sound like if they were a metal band. I kind of think of them as a sillier, happier, crazier Rage Against the Machine.[/quote] which is excactly the way i think of them, although, rage are better! |
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| Author: | WinterIsComing [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:36 am ] |
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Just tried some samples of Dead Kennedys and you are right there are a lot of similarities. |
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| Author: | Stefan [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:45 am ] |
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WinterIsComing wrote: Just tried some samples of Dead Kennedys and you are right there are a lot of similarities.
ok, your description is just GOOD ! 
and indeed Serj has similarities with the great Jello Biafra.... ho, btw, I voted HIT too... SOAD are (if you call them so) the finest NU-Metal act around (and maybe the only one actually)... too bad their latest album is their weakest... :(
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| Author: | Orion [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hit or Miss: System Of A Down |
WinterIsComing wrote: Seinfeld26 wrote: Well, in honor of me buying and enjoying Toxicity today, I thought I'd poll everybody on how they feel about SOAD. Judging from Toxicity, I think they're pretty good. I don't even know why they're labeled "nu-metal" since there's really nothing "nu" about them. They're basically what the Dead Kennedys would sound like if they were a metal band. I kind of think of them as a sillier, happier, crazier Rage Against the Machine. RATM is far superior to SOAD. At least in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Eternal Idol [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hit or Miss: System Of A Down |
Orion wrote: WinterIsComing wrote: Seinfeld26 wrote: Well, in honor of me buying and enjoying Toxicity today, I thought I'd poll everybody on how they feel about SOAD. Judging from Toxicity, I think they're pretty good. I don't even know why they're labeled "nu-metal" since there's really nothing "nu" about them. They're basically what the Dead Kennedys would sound like if they were a metal band. I kind of think of them as a sillier, happier, crazier Rage Against the Machine. RATM is far superior to SOAD. At least in my opinion. They are on equal levels of suckage. I voted miss. I liked their first album when it came out, then I discovered that REAL metal shits all over this stuff. I do give them points for originality though! And stop soiling the mighty DK by mentioning SOAD in the same breath. That is just pure treason. |
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| Author: | rio [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:30 pm ] |
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I do not consider RATM a metal band. I DO consider SOAD a metal band. IMO they are both excellent, but RATM clinch it, being as they are one of the very finest groups ever to grace the heavy rock arena. And regarding the DK's: I had never considered a direct comparison before, but now it's been mentioned, I can see a great deal of similarities here. Especially in the vocal deliveries, which sound different but are delivered in the same kind of spirit, if that makes any sense. |
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| Author: | Eternal Idol [ Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:52 pm ] |
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East Bay Ray>Daron Malakian It's a holiday in Armenia, Where people dress in black. :twisted: |
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| Author: | Seinfeld26 [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:50 am ] |
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Dead Machine wrote: Miss. While their songs sound cool at first, you eventually realize that they have the same problem as Cannibal Corpse, namely, that all their riffs sound pretty much the same.
Plus I really dislike the new album thanks mainly to Daron Malakian. Believe it or not, I think the "same-sounding songs" on Toxicity actually add to the album more than detract from it. It's obvious the band was trying to make one song flow into the next so that the entire album was like one giant, complex song. To do that, you kind of have to make them sound alike. And surprisingly, the band pulled this off quite well. One thing I don't hear in SOAD is their "jazz influences" save for some of the drumwork. Could somebody tell me any other areas where they're influenced by jazz? |
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| Author: | rio [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:13 am ] |
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Seinfeld26 wrote: One thing I don't hear in SOAD is their "jazz influences" save for some of the drumwork. Could somebody tell me any other areas where they're influenced by jazz?
Honestly I don't think they are. I think a lot of people in metal journalism hear something that sounds slightly "odd", and automatically interpret this as a "jazz influence". :roll: In some cases: Ephel Duath, Meshuggah, Solefald, TDEP etc this is pertinent, but not in the case of SOAD, in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Dead Machine [ Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:14 am ] |
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Seinfeld26 wrote: Believe it or not, I think the "same-sounding songs" on Toxicity actually add to the album more than detract from it. It's obvious the band was trying to make one song flow into the next so that the entire album was like one giant, complex song. To do that, you kind of have to make them sound alike. And surprisingly, the band pulled this off quite well. We can agree to disagree on this, then. Quote: One thing I don't hear in SOAD is their "jazz influences" save for some of the drumwork. Could somebody tell me any other areas where they're influenced by jazz?
They don't have jazz influences, and people who tell you they do are liars. A very little bit of the drumwork could be considered slightly jazzy, and that's it. |
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| Author: | Radagast [ Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:01 pm ] |
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Small miss. While I can listen to them, I really can't see myself ever getting up, going over to the CD rack, picking up the album, walking all the way over to the CD player, opening the box, opening the tray, putting the CD in and pressing play without thinking of something I'd rather be listening to in that time. Plus some of their songs just plain suck. |
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