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I dislike grind when it's pure... it's fast, agressive, simplistic and the lyrics (though sometimes funny) are impossible to understand while listening to he music...

but a good blast of grindcore right in the middle of a song is always nice (when it's well done)

Grind is for people who say, "I like death metal, but I wish it was more chaotic and random."
Either that, or people with low attention spans.

Well, most grind, anyway. Pig Destroyer is for those rare souls who laugh while reading Burroughs or like Dark Angel's Darkness Descends, but want to hear it remade, twice as fast and much shorter.

To me, the appeal of grind is its simple approach, the heaviness, and the chaos. Grind is like the anti-prog: it doesn't ever condescend. Personally, I feel that more intelligent grind bands are the natural evolution of thrash, but that's probably just me and nobody else.

The Immortal Emokid wrote:

So, what would you call well done grind?
V.

valefor wrote:

The Immortal Emokid wrote:

So, what would you call well done grind?
V.

Psyopus, The Red Chord are two awesome bands that use grind in a very technical metal-like music.... An Albatross mixes grind & synth pop and it roxxx(an attempt The Locust once missed by a few inches)...

there should be a bunch of other examples but these ones are the first coming to my mind... 8)

http://www.analbatross.com/
check this site out!
Btw good grind is also Cephalic Carnage

I was in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit for three nights last week (my son became very sick and almost died)...

valefor wrote:

I was in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit for three nights last week (my son became very sick and almost died)...

Is he OK now V.? I wish best of luck to you two and a fast and steady recuperation for him.

Yeah, he's o.k. now... he was slipping into a diabetic coma. Within less than a 24 hour period he went from his normal hell-raising self to puking and barely conscsous... since we had a few friends whose children had the flu, thats what we figured on, but I knew something else was going on, so we called the Dr. who said that it sounds like diabetes... in my mind I am saying WTF? he just turned 1 yr., he doesn't have fucking diabetes... wrong. The Dr. said if we had waited any longer he coukd have had organ failure and he was on the verge of a coma. Now keep in mind this is over a 1 day time span, so long story short, we took shifts in the PICU for three days.
I have to administer Insulin to him twice a day, as well as check his blood sugar, but other than that all is cool.
It was a stressful week, though...
Thanks for your well wishes!
Many Hails, Brother!

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So strange, diabetes at the age of 1... :o
Anyway wish the best for you and your son too!

Hails!

I got diabetes when I was just 1 year old....

Not that hard... my parents allways looked that I ate well and I did take my insuline when I was supposed to. I rarely had any trouble with it. It can restrict a child's life a little bit at times, but really rarely, I did feel at times that I was left out from other child's games and playes because of it. But it really is nothing that serious IMO, it's rather an easy condition (I wont say dicease, because I never felt that way, I have never seen myself any different from others because of it) to threat, and it really doesnt restrict one's life if it is threated well. I have been taking care of my diabetes for allmoust 10 years now (I'm 21, almoust 22 soon

), and during that time I have had no serious trouble with it.

Holy shit. That's a terrible thing to have happen to a kid at such an age.

I have a friend with diabetes, but he's not quite the picture of anything, including health or social skills. He's also a complete psycho for reasons I won't mention.

Just the other extreme here, I suppose.

Best of luck to you.

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:44 pm ]
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I know that it is not necessarily to be taken seriously, but could anyone enlighten me as to what the appeal is, I honestly don't get it. P.S not looking for a flame war, just some insight on a genre that I fail to comprehend the allure of, to some. V.

Author:	Anonymous [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:00 pm ]
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I dislike grind when it's pure... it's fast, agressive, simplistic and the lyrics (though sometimes funny) are impossible to understand while listening to he music... but a good blast of grindcore right in the middle of a song is always nice (when it's well done)

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:07 pm ]
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The Immortal Emokid wrote: I dislike grind when it's pure... it's fast, agressive, simplistic and the lyrics (though sometimes funny) are impossible to understand while listening to he music... but a good blast of grindcore right in the middle of a song is always nice (when it's well done) So, what would you call well done grind? V.

Author:	Dead Machine [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:09 pm ]
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Grind is for people who say, "I like death metal, but I wish it was more chaotic and random." Either that, or people with low attention spans. Well, most grind, anyway. Pig Destroyer is for those rare souls who laugh while reading Burroughs or like Dark Angel's Darkness Descends, but want to hear it remade, twice as fast and much shorter. To me, the appeal of grind is its simple approach, the heaviness, and the chaos. Grind is like the anti-prog: it doesn't ever condescend. Personally, I feel that more intelligent grind bands are the natural evolution of thrash, but that's probably just me and nobody else.

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:32 pm ]
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Dead Machine wrote: Grind is for people who say, "I like death metal, but I wish it was more chaotic and random." Either that, or people with low attention spans. Well, most grind, anyway. Pig Destroyer is for those rare souls who laugh while reading Burroughs or like Dark Angel's Darkness Descends, but want to hear it remade, twice as fast and much shorter. To me, the appeal of grind is its simple approach, the heaviness, and the chaos. Grind is like the anti-prog: it doesn't ever condescend. Personally, I feel that more intelligent grind bands are the natural evolution of thrash, but that's probably just me and nobody else. Well, I think it is an offshoot of thrash, but I could be wrong... I think that it is only fair to differentiate between Grindcore and Goregrind... I can understand the de-evolutionary statement being made by grind bands that deal with political/societal issues, but I can't understand the appeal of goregrind... I was in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit for three nights last week (my son became very sick and almost died)... next to us was a boy around 7-8 that had been involved in a hit-and-run accident (he was the hit part) where he was dragged for a good distance... I saw his face and it wasn't pretty; half of it was missing and you could hear the blood gurgling when he breathed through the oxygen machine, but that was not the worst; the worst was listening to his mother wail and cry, a primordial sound of total despair... the boy never stirred once the whole time he was there... Irelayed with all here the time my aunt was beaten, raped and left for dead, and I fail to see anything funny about such things. Maybe I take things too seriously, I don't know, but there is enough ugliness in the world, the last thing we need is more. V.

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Author:	Anonymous [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:36 pm ]
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valefor wrote: The Immortal Emokid wrote: I dislike grind when it's pure... it's fast, agressive, simplistic and the lyrics (though sometimes funny) are impossible to understand while listening to he music... but a good blast of grindcore right in the middle of a song is always nice (when it's well done) So, what would you call well done grind? V. Psyopus, The Red Chord are two awesome bands that use grind in a very technical metal-like music.... An Albatross mixes grind & synth pop and it roxxx(an attempt The Locust once missed by a few inches)... there should be a bunch of other examples but these ones are the first coming to my mind... 8)

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:52 pm ]
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The Immortal Emokid wrote: valefor wrote: The Immortal Emokid wrote: I dislike grind when it's pure... it's fast, agressive, simplistic and the lyrics (though sometimes funny) are impossible to understand while listening to he music... but a good blast of grindcore right in the middle of a song is always nice (when it's well done) So, what would you call well done grind? V. Psyopus, The Red Chord are two awesome bands that use grind in a very technical metal-like music.... An Albatross mixes grind & synth pop and it roxxx(an attempt The Locust once missed by a few inches)... there should be a bunch of other examples but these ones are the first coming to my mind... 8) How do you combine synth-pop and grind? This I gotta hear, thx. V.

Author:	Dago [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:41 pm ]
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http://www.analbatross.com/ check this site out! Btw good grind is also Cephalic Carnage

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:50 pm ]
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Dago wrote: http://www.analbatross.com/ check this site out! Btw good grind is also Cephalic Carnage Thanks, man. V.

Author:	deathkvlt [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:58 pm ]
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valefor wrote: I was in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit for three nights last week (my son became very sick and almost died)... Is he OK now V.? I wish best of luck to you two and a fast and steady recuperation for him.

Author:	valefor [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:04 pm ]
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deathkvlt wrote: valefor wrote: I was in the Pediatric Intensive Care unit for three nights last week (my son became very sick and almost died)... Is he OK now V.? I wish best of luck to you two and a fast and steady recuperation for him. Yeah, he's o.k. now... he was slipping into a diabetic coma. Within less than a 24 hour period he went from his normal hell-raising self to puking and barely conscsous... since we had a few friends whose children had the flu, thats what we figured on, but I knew something else was going on, so we called the Dr. who said that it sounds like diabetes... in my mind I am saying WTF? he just turned 1 yr., he doesn't have fucking diabetes... wrong. The Dr. said if we had waited any longer he coukd have had organ failure and he was on the verge of a coma. Now keep in mind this is over a 1 day time span, so long story short, we took shifts in the PICU for three days. I have to administer Insulin to him twice a day, as well as check his blood sugar, but other than that all is cool. It was a stressful week, though... Thanks for your well wishes! Many Hails, Brother! V.

Author:	Dago [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:23 pm ]
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Quote: Yeah, he's o.k. now... he was slipping into a diabetic coma. Within less than a 24 hour period he went from his normal hell-raising self to puking and barely conscsous... since we had a few friends whose children had the flu, thats what we figured on, but I knew something else was going on, so we called the Dr. who said that it sounds like diabetes... in my mind I am saying WTF? he just turned 1 yr., he doesn't have fucking diabetes... wrong. The Dr. said if we had waited any longer he coukd have had organ failure and he was on the verge of a coma. Now keep in mind this is over a 1 day time span, so long story short, we took shifts in the PICU for three days. I have to administer Insulin to him twice a day, as well as check his blood sugar, but other than that all is cool. It was a stressful week, though... Thanks for your well wishes! Many Hails, Brother! So strange, diabetes at the age of 1... :o Anyway wish the best for you and your son too! Hails!

Author:	Skartasis [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:25 pm ]
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I got diabetes when I was just 1 year old....

Author:	valefor [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:52 pm ]
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Dago wrote: Quote: Yeah, he's o.k. now... he was slipping into a diabetic coma. Within less than a 24 hour period he went from his normal hell-raising self to puking and barely conscsous... since we had a few friends whose children had the flu, thats what we figured on, but I knew something else was going on, so we called the Dr. who said that it sounds like diabetes... in my mind I am saying WTF? he just turned 1 yr., he doesn't have fucking diabetes... wrong. The Dr. said if we had waited any longer he coukd have had organ failure and he was on the verge of a coma. Now keep in mind this is over a 1 day time span, so long story short, we took shifts in the PICU for three days. I have to administer Insulin to him twice a day, as well as check his blood sugar, but other than that all is cool. It was a stressful week, though... Thanks for your well wishes! Many Hails, Brother! So strange, diabetes at the age of 1... :o Anyway wish the best for you and your son too! Hails! Thank you, Dago, I really appreciate that. Hails! V.

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Author:	valefor [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:53 pm ]
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Skartasis wrote: I got diabetes when I was just 1 year old.... What was it like growing up with it? V.

Author:	Skartasis [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:12 pm ]
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Not that hard... my parents allways looked that I ate well and I did take my insuline when I was supposed to. I rarely had any trouble with it. It can restrict a child's life a little bit at times, but really rarely, I did feel at times that I was left out from other child's games and playes because of it. But it really is nothing that serious IMO, it's rather an easy condition (I wont say dicease, because I never felt that way, I have never seen myself any different from others because of it) to threat, and it really doesnt restrict one's life if it is threated well. I have been taking care of my diabetes for allmoust 10 years now (I'm 21, almoust 22 soon ), and during that time I have had no serious trouble with it.

Author:	valefor [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:35 pm ]
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Skartasis wrote: Not that hard... my parents allways looked that I ate well and I did take my insuline when I was supposed to. I rarely had any trouble with it. It can restrict a child's life a little bit at times, but really rarely, I did feel at times that I was left out from other child's games and playes because of it. But it really is nothing that serious IMO, it's rather an easy condition (I wont say dicease, because I never felt that way, I have never seen myself any different from others because of it) to threat, and it really doesnt restrict one's life if it is threated well. I have been taking care of my diabetes for allmoust 10 years now (I'm 21, almoust 22 soon ), and during that time I have had no serious trouble with it. Cool... actually, you are probably helathier than a lot of other people, due to adhering to a strict diet. I am glad to hear that it wasn't that big of a deal for you. This is totally new for us and do not yet quite know what to expect. That is one of the advantages (if you are going to have diabetes, that is) of such an early onset: the strict dietary regimine is something that one has known all of their life, therefore limiting any kind of lifestyle change that would be much harder to make at a later age. Hails! V.

Author:	Dead Machine [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:58 pm ]
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Holy shit. That's a terrible thing to have happen to a kid at such an age. I have a friend with diabetes, but he's not quite the picture of anything, including health or social skills. He's also a complete psycho for reasons I won't mention. Just the other extreme here, I suppose. Best of luck to you.

Author:	Fingon [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:51 pm ]
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well, i come from a whole family with things like diabetes and osteoporose(spelling?) but luckily i've been spared of both,my only 'weak' point is that i have a tumor in my head but it's been taken care of.

Author:	valefor [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:58 pm ]
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Dead Machine wrote: Holy shit. That's a terrible thing to have happen to a kid at such an age. I have a friend with diabetes, but he's not quite the picture of anything, including health or social skills. He's also a complete psycho for reasons I won't mention. Just the other extreme here, I suppose. Best of luck to you. Thanks, man. It freaked me out for a while, but he is back to his normal hurricane self. HAILS! V.