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Author:  Seinfeld26 [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:47 am ]
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In metal circles, rap seems to be a "love it or leave it" thing. Some metal fans shamelessly love it. Others toss it in the "MTV garbage" dump (does such a thing even exist anymore?). So what are your personal thoughts on it? Any bands in the genre that you like?

Personally, the only rap band I like enough to buy music from is Rage Against The Machine. But I can also enjoy Public Enemy, Beastie Boys (actually, I sometimes ponder whether or not I should buy "Hello Nasty"), Run-DMC, and heck even Eminem can be entertaining from time to time (or may be that's just my inner-Detroiter talking? :wink: ).

I think the main problem with rap isn't so much what it is but rather what it's become. After Snoop Doggy Dogg popularized the "gangsta rap" subgenre in the early-90's, rap gradually devolved further and further into self-parody. Which is why you now have 50 Cent and Ja Rule selling millions of records, while more deserving rap artists fall by the wayside. It's sad, really...

1991: Anthrax collaborates with Public Enemy to re-record (and "metalize") Bring The Noise. Nobody gives them any flack for it.

Eleven Years Later: Metallica collaborates with Ja Rule to do a song called "We Did It Again." People consider that the final nail on the once seminal metal band's coffin.

Wow, what a contrast!
Author:  huskerc7 [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:58 am ]
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there's some great rap/hip-hop out there.

my favorite hip hop album is probably GZA- Liquid Swords
Author:  TheOctavarius [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:02 am ]
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I like trip-hop bands like Massive Attack and Burial. Not too fond of regular old rap and what have you.
Author:  Goat [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:16 am ]
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Like all genres, some great, a lot of shit. Prefer old-school too, Public Enemy, Wu Tang, etc. I like Dalek and other experimental stuff as well though.
Author:  Legacy Of The Night [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:23 am ]
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Aesop Rock is good, Deltron 3030 is good, what I've heard of Atmosphere is pretty good... I'm really picky about rap.
Author:  traptunderice [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:56 am ]
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Busdriver is tolerable.
Author:  DevotedWalnut [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:40 am ]
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Coolio
Author:  Cú Chulainn [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:50 am ]
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I love, I mean I fucking love, the Streets.
Author:  Mintrude [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:04 pm ]
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Why? and cLOUDDEAD are both excellent, though they're hardly conventional and the former has been moving away from hip-hop for a long while now.
Author:  Satan's Anus [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:04 pm ]
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Rage Against The Machine is rap? Really?
Author:  GeneralDiomedes [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:26 pm ]
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I like "bouncy" rap/hip hop .. Paul's Boutique by Beastie Boys is probably my fav. I also like most of what Cypress Hill has put out. Some stuff by Missy Elliot I think is great, DJ Krush is genius but I'm not sure if that would qualify.

However, it's simply not a genre I have explored that deeply nor do I intend to.
Author:  rio [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:29 pm ]
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Satan's Anus wrote:
Rage Against The Machine is rap? Really?


Well, Zack raps, so.... why not?

Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet is the only rap album I own, but I have been meaning to change that. It's way cool.
Author:  Goat [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:40 pm ]
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rio wrote:
Satan's Anus wrote:
Rage Against The Machine is rap? Really?


Well, Zack raps, so.... why not?

Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet is the only rap album I own, but I have been meaning to change that. It's way cool.


I hope you've at least heard It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back... :omfg:
Author:  noodles [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:44 pm ]
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I haven't listened to much rap, although I've heard a couple songs I like, so someday it'll happen.
Author:  wild_child [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:00 am ]
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Eminem. he has a good flow and his lyrics are great
Author:  heatseeker [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:08 am ]
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
Aesop Rock is good, Deltron 3030 is good, what I've heard of Atmosphere is pretty good... I'm really picky about rap.


Yep. Except I'd consider Atmosphere to be the best of the three.

Cunninlynguists and K'naan are also very good.

Jay-Z is also okay, from what I've heard. He does have one of the best drummers in the world in his backing band.
Author:  Ness [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:49 pm ]
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I'll always have a place in my heart for rap. I listened to it all through high school and whenever I hear 'Regulators' I can't help but sing along and feel a little nostalgic. I probably won't ever buy anything, but when Eazy E comes on, I can enjoy myself after a few drinks with friends.
Author:  stevelovesmoonspell [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:14 am ]
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I don't generally care too much for the media sanctioned pop rap, my fiancee got me into Older Eminem; Atmosphere are interesting and I like the lyrics from Immortal Technique. The Welfare poets are really good too, too bad genuinely good rap is hard to come by.
Author:  GeneralDiomedes [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:04 am ]
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wait .. were we supposed to rap?
Author:  The Necrodude [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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No love for Jedi Mind Tricks?

The Psycho Social album was and is a masterpiece of hip-hop music, dark twisted beats and equally dark and twisted lyrics.
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