Metal Reviews

I'm from Germany and I understand exactly what you mean. We have a lot of imigrants from Eastern Europe which are not willing at all to integrate into our culture. They make up gangs and terrorize people. But if you answer back and beat the shit out of them, you can be sure that this is seen as a right wing extremist's act.
I'm not pride of my country. I didn't chose within which border I want to be born. I hate the government of my country and this government represents half of the consituents of my country. How could I love a country which is reigned by sharks and lyers. You may argue, that the government and the people are not the country... but if you detract the people, then what's left to be proud of?
I'm not pride of my culture. For the reason that I didn't contuibute anything to it, before I was born in it. National pride is obiously something that I will never understand.

I don't see that there is an exact line, that seperates National Socialists from nazis. Some of your posts come across as (at least to me) you are a nationalist, ready for violence, inhuman, and, I see the tendency to brown-nose. And this my friend, is a quite omnious set. You may not be a real nazi, but you may serve as the perfect follower for coming leaders. Please keep your eyes open.

So you don't care that our flag was burnt. So does this mean you wouldn't care if a France flag was burnt? Probably yes. You probably didn't have to see a nation hate your country and tell lies about your country so the rest of the world would hate you too. You probably didn't have to see worshipping places of a totally different religion sprout from every corner of your country. You probably didn't have to see some people celebrate the birthday of a terrorist leader who killed 30.000 people of your nation not more than 15 years ago. You probably are talking about something you looked up in the internet when I'm telling you that my grandfather was an eye-witness.

See these things can be fine to you but these are things that I can not ignore. I cannot let it go and I will not forget for I am proud of my country. If this makes me a nazi then I am a nazi.


And it's cool that you welcome us in the EU but I think the rest of France disagrees with you.

Another possible hippy point of view; If nations are what divide the people aren't SOAD actually reinforcing that by burning the Turkish flag... symbolically damning an entire nation full of people for no reason other than the fact that they live inside a defined geographic area?

I can understand having strong feelings towards what happened in the past, but to act like you were one of the ones that was actually oppressed when you weren't... that's just blatant ignorance and immaturity. Much like the Blacks that act like white folks owe them something since their great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather was a slave.

Perfect follower for the coming leaders? What do you mean like another Hitler? Naah a leader like him will probably not appear on the surface of the earth ever again.

I am not ready for violence but I am ready to take action and do whatever is required to defend myself and other people like me.

actually France have been through hard times too... and we did have some hatred from other nations throughout our history... it's certainly not "nice" but, hey, live with it.. the times have changed and globalisation is on the way.... hopefully, someday there won't be borders or religions or languages anymore and we will all melt in the great human race as a whole... yeah, I know, I'm an utopist !

btw, young people (less than 40 y o) do welcome Turkey in Europe by a 60+% majority.. and since it won't be before 10 or 15 years and think those are pretty good signs... 8)

and try to direct you anger to the right target... imo, you've picked the wrong enemies.... :?

I am not particularly proud of America, especially the government, and the general population seem to be robotic sheep, bleating the pre-digested slogans they hear on the tube.
Perhaps I should elaborate my position: My pride is derived from the European pagan roots of my forefathers culture... and Kathaarian is right; in America, the right-wing-xtian-fundamentalist have the reigns of power, and it is too late to stop it here... if I was in a position to have stopped this all consuming cancer from raping and brainwashing America, I would have gladly done so.
V.

My freind, you know deep down in your heart that globalization is not something created to benefit mankind as a whole, but to consolidate power and wealth in the hands of the cold-blooded reptiles that run the show; it would most likely be a dystopian future, opposed to your utopian one; still, hippies always were dreamers ...

I know the american way of globalizing the world is not indeed even close to my utopia... though, I felt a growing strenght within the opponents to that killing logic which kinda gives me hope things can turn out for the better... :roll: still, the situation's pretty fucked up so let's wish it's not too late ! :(

the Hippie salutes you mighty Pagan (aren't Hippies pagan after all ? :? )

In a pacifist sort of way ...
one can certainly hope that the future is bright, I do, I want my children to live in a praceful world. But the madman at the wheel (Bush) is really only a figurhead, a fucking meat-puppet whose strings are manipulated by some heartless motherfuckers...
Hails!
V.

:shock:

okay.. i get it now...

communism = satan

so satanists are, somehow, miscalled communists....

hails, indeed !

Relax, there can be no globalisation in the capitalist sense because there simply aren't enough natural resources to sustain such enormous levels of consumerism. If every individual were able to live at the average middle-class level of first world countries it would take 5.5 planet earths to support them. So the sad fact is that as populations, needs and wants skyrocket, the opposite can be said for supporting resources. So it will be a mighty shock when suddenly the ocean's fish stocks are depleted, there is no more oil for SUVs, and we poison ourselves because there aren't any trees left to absorb CO2 gasses.

The good news is that once industrialised society spectacularly collapses, the meagre reasources left will ensure that any survivors can't repeat the mistakes of globalisation.

Haha, yeah, I've heard that before, and I've always wondered why people don't interpret it as a reason to cut back on their unnecessary luxuries and all around opulence. Probably for the same reason that third-world debts won't be abolished.

All this because of greed? \m/ 8)

If it's true that SOAD burnt a flag onstage (and I'm not calling you a liar!) then that was indeed a stupid thing to do.

The whole nationalism=nazism debate is difficult, all I can do is have enough faith in the human race that another Hitler shall never again arise.

And communism=satanism kinda went out of the window at the end of the cold war.

Although, interestingly enough I heard a report that said that a majority of Russians considered Stalin a great national leader. Could that happen in Germany with Hitler? After all, Stalin killed many more of his own people than AH did!

You know what, I believe your utopia is not that far away. I expect the world to end by a total war not too late. And then maybe if the whole world is not totally fucked up a new life could begin. That way no borders and religions and shit would exist and everyone would accept that we are the same race afterall. But globalisation probably cannot accomplish that.

But in this state that our world is in and my country and my people is in I have to make my stand somewhere and I probably made it clear where I stand.

I'd seriously consider changing that sig Kath, because nobody should EVER quote anything from God Hates Us All!

And why is that, my dear friend?

Because that album had some of the lamest lyrics of any metal album released in the last decade (and certainly the lamest of any Slayer album I'd ever listened to)? That particular line you quoted sounds just like one of those "I hate my life and my parents and everything else" lines you'd expect to hear in one of those nu-metal songs you detest so much.

I just wrote that sig because it was relevant to a topic on this forum somewhere. It's not like my motto or something. But I don't think this is like anything written by a nu-metal band. While Tom is screaming these lines it sounds so cool. And the song kicks ass. GHUA is a pretty good (even great) album if you consider the guys ages. Unlike some other thrash godz (you know who I'm talking about)

It is a good album I'll admit. But it never fails to bother me that a lot of metal fans seem totally clueless about how forced its lyrics sound (including Tom's screaming). It's like Slayer knew that if they softened their sound, they'd basically ruin their careers so they faked their hate and aggression on GHUA because they knew this style of music was expected of them (otherwise, why would Tom purposely throw the f-word 30 times in one or two songs). It's still a good album with some good guitar riffs and is waaaaay better than a certain other album released two years ago by those "thrash godz" you were talking about, but in no way is it Slayer's best and it's certainly overrated in the metal community (probably because it's Slayer and as long as they don't release a folk inspired country album, everything they do will be hailed a masterpiece no matter how good it is).

By the way, did you know that about four years ago, Kerry King said in a Guitar World interview that he was a big fan of bands like Disturbed and Linkin Park and wanted to implement whatever made them popular into Slayer's music?