Green Day - American Idiot

Fingon · **Joined:** Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:11 pm **Posts:** 3207

Dago wrote:

French are agressive.... Get used to them...

but at least there are not as gay as Italians :wink:

rio · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:33 am

Seems to me that TIE has been behaving oddly recently... indeed a bit more "aggressive" than usual.

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:06 am

Fingon wrote:

Dago wrote:

French are agressive.... Get used to them...

but at least there are not as gay as Italians :wink:

I'm 1/4th Italain. I guess that means I'm 1/4 gay? :wink:

Stefan · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:15 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Fingon wrote:

Dago wrote:

French are agressive.... Get used to them...

but at least there are not as gay as Italians :wink:

I'm 1/4th Italain. I guess that means I'm 1/4 gay? :wink:

nope, you're a metalhead too... that makes you 50% gay :lol:

Dago · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:55 am

Since i am gay Flingon can i live with you in your amazing hut=?

Goat · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:39 pm

Go listen to The Damned.

Fingon · **Joined:** Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:11 pm **Posts:** 3207

Dago wrote:

Since i am gay Flingon can i live with you in your amazing hut=?

haha, only if you promise to never wear a leather outfit in the italian national colours :lol:

Dago · **Posted:** Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:58 pm

LOL of course man that would be really homoerotic!
:lol:

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:15 pm

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

Stefan · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:42 pm

Seinfeld26 wrote:

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

well it's maybe because this generation knows jack shit about politics that they made a political album... just an entertaining way to teach those kids a little... 8)

that is called growing up, that'll happen to you to some day...

Rhys · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:59 pm

Seinfeld26 wrote:

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

Maybe its because ragging Bush sells more records than masturbation does these days?

Stefan · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:03 pm

following the reaper wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

Maybe its because ragging Bush sells more records than masturbation does these days?

implying GD are sell-outs ? :roll:

I think you've been misinformed, they don't need this to sell tons of records and fill up stadium audiences 8)

NP
Green Carnation "The Acoustic Verses" (first spin)

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:21 pm

Stefan wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

well it's maybe because this generation knows jack shit about politics that they made a political album... just an entertaining way to teach those kids a little... 8)

that is called growing up, that'll happen to you to some day...

Well maybe I'm the faggot America.
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.

I don't know whether I'd consider THAT "growing up."

Either way, I know Green Day is probably well into their 30s by now so they can't be singing about girls and masturbation forever. Nonetheless, it's certainly quite a contrast. And they STILL have that little snot-nosed punky kid mentality. :roll:

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:22 pm

Stefan wrote:

following the reaper wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

Well, I bought this album two weeks ago. Overall, it's pretty good. Though I have to admit it almost seems like Green Day purposely wrote a political album just for the sake of writing one. And it's kind of odd seeing reviewers call it "An album for the generation" since, let's be honest, do most US teenagers (Green Day's target audience) know jack shit about politics?

For the record, it's weird seeing the same band who, just ten years earlier, wrote songs about masturbation and girls decide to write songs about the whole Bush regime. At least the Suicide Machines had some political relevance before trying their hand at an entirely politically charged album (SOS for example).

Maybe its because ragging Bush sells more records than masturbation does these days?

implying GD are sell-outs ? :roll:

I think you've been misinformed, they don't need this to sell tons of records and fill up stadium audiences 8)

NP
Green Carnation "The Acoustic Verses" (first spin)

I think the whole reason American Idiot became so popular is because there isn't much politically charged mainstream music. We're metal fans, so political lyrics are pretty commonplace for us. But for most mainstreamers, the common lyrics are love, sex and teen angst. So for alot of them, an album like American Idiot was totally new.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:46 pm

Maybe it's simply because 10 years ago they didn't care about politics. It happens. These guys aren't kids anymore. It's a great album either way. Still Green Day, so you know what to expect, but damn good either way.

Radagast · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:10 pm

The lyrics aren't what sold a shite-load of copies of this album, thats down to the catchy pop music.

Green Day writing a politicool album is just bandwagon jumping. With every tosser from Chris Martin to that stupid tart from the Black Eyed Peas suddenly becoming political experts it was inevitable. Cause, you know, punk is about rebellion. And selling £10 inflatable grenade-hearts at your £25 a ticket gigs.

Goat · **Posted:** Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:24 pm

Radagast wrote:

The lyrics aren't what sold a shite-load of copies of this album, thats down to the catchy pop music.

Green Day writing a politicool album is just bandwagon jumping. With every tosser from Chris Martin to that stupid tart from the Black Eyed Peas suddenly becoming political experts it was inevitable. Cause, you know, punk is about rebellion. And selling £10 inflatable grenade-hearts at your £25 a ticket gigs.

Exactly. If not for Fat Mike and the whole PunkVoter thing, they'd never have done it...

Dudeguy · **Posted:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:08 pm

Radagast wrote:

The lyrics aren't what sold a shite-load of copies of this album, thats down to the catchy pop music.

Green Day writing a politicool album is just bandwagon jumping. With every tosser from Chris Martin to that stupid tart from the Black Eyed Peas suddenly becoming political experts it was inevitable. Cause, you know, punk is about rebellion. And selling £10 inflatable grenade-hearts at your £25 a ticket gigs.

that is true

Eyesore · **Posted:** Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:39 pm

Well, in their defense they've never had completely retarded lyrics. Even going back to Smoothed Out Slappy Hours their lyrics were fairly intelligent. They actually started showing a lot more maturity on Nimrod. On Warning they were much more mature, socio-political, as well. American Idiot's lyrics are not a bandwagon response, I don't think, but more of a sign of the times. People write about what influences them, politics have invaded everyones' lives during Bush's current reign.

North From Here · **Posted:** Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:35 am

Eyesore wrote:

Well, in their defense they've never had completely retarded lyrics. Even going back to Smoothed Out Slappy Hours their lyrics were fairly intelligent. They actually started showing a lot more maturity on Nimrod. On Warning they were much more mature, socio-political, as well. American Idiot's lyrics are not a bandwagon response, I don't think, but more of a sign of the times. People write about what influences them, politics have invaded everyones' lives during Bush's current reign.

I haven't weighed in on this debate before because I can see both sides. Green Day were a favorite of mine in my pre-metal days and I never really stopped liking them. I enjoyed AI for what it was,(particularly the 2 long tracks) but Warning remains my favorite of theirs. As Eyesore notes, Warning's lyrics were socio-political, and I think they were quite brilliant in places. One can argue that Green Day suck or cater to the mainstream excessively but I don't see AI as a bandwagon album.

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