Metal Reviews

Any Burst if it's considered metalcore.

Nintendocore.

Wrong when you posted it four years ago. Still wrong.

Ô forgive me you mighty know-it-all.
Idiot.

Yes, because that's not the pot calling the kettle black. Grow up, seriously.

Since when were TDEP and Converge metalcore?

I dunno. I wouldn't call Converge "Metalcore," but for some reason everyone else is.

I'd say both are post-hardcore or technical hardcore.

Anyway Goatie, why wouldn't Killswitch Engage count as best metalcore album? Alice or Just Breathing is in large part responsible for popularizing the mainstream metalcore movement.

I'd call Converge metalcore just because that's what metalcore sounded like in the 90s and afaik there isn't really another name for it, maybe Dillinger Escape Plan too although they're a lot more precise and cerebral than Botch/Converge/Cave In/etc.

I associate post-hardcore with like Refused, These Arms Are Snakes, Alexisonfire, At The Drive-In, Emmery and such, so definitely not Converge.

The "early Metalcore" stuff I usually tend to just call Hardcore. Bands like Converge and Botch seem to have a lot more in common with Hardcore than they do with bands called Metalcore today, like Bullet For My Valentine or Killswitch Engage or some shit. I just don't really feel right lumping Converge in with those bands.

Converge I generally just refer to as hardcore, despite the definite extreme metal elements of their sound. They have also dabbled in mathcore ('Concubine'), Sludge ('You Fail Me'), Post-Metal ('Jane Doe'), and a sort of Melodic Hardcore sound ('Two Day Romance').

The Dillinger Escape Plan and Botch are mathcore. DEP on Calculating Infinity definitely pioneered that style, as did Botch with We Are The Romans.

But yeah, they aren't metalcore.

As for what I think is best, more so my favourites:

Johnny Truant - In The Library Of Horrific Events
Between The Buried and Me - Colors
Parkway Drive - Horizons
The Chariot - The Fiancee

Precisely!

No love for Coalesce?

Tori Amos' Little Earthquakes. Has more breakdowns in it than any of Elton John's albums, that's fo' damn sho.

O I C wut u did thar

Dead Blue Sky were a band that released one sort-of 'core/melodeath album back in 2001, then split up. It was a bit different to how the popular version of the style eventually worked itself out - lots of acoustic breaks and really weird, seriously girly clean vocals that somehow just worked.

This is hands down The Dillinger Escape Plan's Calculating Infinity.

Anything Neaera, particularly their first two albums.

+1

Althoug I really like Armamentarium a lot, maybe even more. I haven't heard Omnicide though.

I wonder how DEP qualify as metalcore, they're a good band but they're really something else.

I've seen this a lot around here but I don't know. They do have metal influences and hardcore influences in their music. I suppose you could just go with the term mathcore. If so I'm not sure what to put as my favorite metalcore album seeing as the likes of bands like Botch and DEP are out, some people would argue against Converge.