Did Korn invent nu-metal?

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:20 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Besides Cucoo For Caca, Ugly In The Morning, Jizzlobber, and maybe a couple other exceptions, I really don't hear any Metal in their sound.

Listen harder. There are Metal riffs in, lessee, yes, most songs on Angel Dust, apart from anything. Have you heard The Real Thing? Metal riffs aplenty.

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

Wouldn't the best way to describe Faith No More be alternative metal? I mean, they're certainly a big influence to what was to become Nu Metal, yet, they have an individuality and a versatility no other band possesses.

Anyway, nu metal is baaaaaaad, FNM is gooooood! End of discussion. Close the threat Zadok! :cool:

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:58 am

i heard Coal Chamber's Loco for the first time yesterday..
My god...absolute shit..

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:06 am

Goat wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Besides Cucoo For Caca, Ugly In The Morning, Jizzlobber, and maybe a couple other exceptions, I really don't hear any Metal in their sound.

Listen harder. There are Metal riffs in, lessee, yes, most songs on Angel Dust, apart from anything. Have you heard The Real Thing? Metal riffs aplenty.

Yes, there are some Metal riffs (Maybe I overexaggerated with "don't hear any Metal"), and I've heard a bit of The Real Thing ("Surprise! You're Dead" is one of those notable exceptions, but I haven't heard the whole thing, so I'm not gonna comment on it yet), but with Angel Dust, I hear about as much Funk as I hear Metal. I wouldn't call them either Funk or Metal, though. It's always difficult pinning FNM down under one umbrella, but I'd be quicker to call them Alt. Rock than Metal.

And, yes, Coal Chamber is pretty much rock bottom as far as music goes.

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:17 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Goat wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Besides Cucoo For Caca, Ugly In The Morning, Jizzlobber, and maybe a couple other exceptions, I really don't hear any Metal in their sound.

Listen harder. There are Metal riffs in, lessee, yes, most songs on Angel Dust, apart from anything. Have you heard The Real Thing? Metal riffs aplenty.

Yes, there are some Metal riffs (Maybe I overexaggerated with "don't hear any Metal"), and I've heard a bit of The Real Thing ("Surprise! You're Dead" is one of those notable exceptions, but I haven't heard the whole thing, so I'm not gonna comment on it yet), but with Angel Dust, I hear about as much Funk as I hear Metal. I wouldn't call them either Funk or Metal, though. It's always difficult pinning FNM down under one umbrella, but I'd be quicker to call them Alt. Rock than Metal.

And, yes, Coal Chamber is pretty much rock bottom as far as music goes.

Funk Metal? Heh, yes, CC are bloody awful.

Thomas · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:19 am

nice to get that confirmed. I almost bought an album of their cause it was like 0.01 cent or something in a store here.

PS: Nu-Metal sucks :ph34r:

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:25 am

metal_xxx wrote:

I almost an album of their cause it was like 0.01 cent or something in a store here.

The whole thing?

traptunderice · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:39 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Goat wrote:

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

Besides Cucoo For Caca, Ugly In The Morning, Jizzlobber, and maybe a couple other exceptions, I really don't hear any Metal in their sound.

Listen harder. There are Metal riffs in, lessee, yes, most songs on Angel Dust, apart from anything. Have you heard The Real Thing? Metal riffs aplenty.

Yes, there are some Metal riffs (Maybe I overexaggerated with "don't hear any Metal"), and I've heard a bit of The Real Thing ("Surprise! You're Dead" is one of those notable exceptions, but I haven't heard the whole thing, so I'm not gonna comment on it yet),

That explains that.

Thomas · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:51 am

Legacy Of The Night wrote:

metal_xxx wrote:

I almost bought an album of their cause it was like 0.01 cent or something in a store here.

The whole thing?

yeah..

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:48 am

yeah;lskdpd

ganeshaRules · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:39 am

FNM is Alternative Metal-Rock (with funk influences). or Inclassificable.

And The Real Thing is pure metal, the most metal album in his discography (and my fav).

And my fav song, live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYzehC2xSbs

Lucifer's Son · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:52 pm **Posts:** 2016

ganeshaRules wrote:

FNM is Alternative Metal-Rock (with funk influences). or Inclassificable.

And The Real Thing is pure metal, the most metal album in his discography (and my fav).

And my fav song, live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYzehC2xSbs

Pure metal ? :huh:

I find more metal in Angel Dust though it's less obvious...

Seinfeld26 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:46 pm

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

i heard Coal Chamber's Loco for the first time yesterday..
My god...absolute shit..

Need I say more? :rolleyes:

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:40 am

Seinfeld26 wrote:

stevelovesmoonspell wrote:

i heard Coal Chamber's Loco for the first time yesterday..
My god...absolute shit..

Need I say more? :rolleyes:

Dez seriously sounds like hes speaking in tongues in the song.

Satan's Anus · **Joined:** Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:37 pm **Posts:** 1046

The first Coal Chamber is decent, the second one rules, and the third is pretty shitty.

Goat · **Posted:** Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:48 am

Satan's Anus wrote:

The first Coal Chamber is decent, the second one rules, and the third is pretty shitty.

Seeing that Satan's Anus has posted anew usually leads to either lols or facepalms. I did both when reading that.

TheMetalWarrior316 · **Joined:** Thu Sep 28, 2006 11:01 am **Posts:** 646

Seinfeld26 wrote:

This should make for an interesting debate.

Korn is often credited as the band that pioneered nu-metal with their self-titled album in 1994. But considering the fact that their self-titled album was really more of a punk/hardcore-influenced hip hop record than a metal record, would you necessarily agree with this? [...]

Is NuMetal not a punk/hardcore/metal hip hop crossover style? Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Papa Roach...all the same shit.

On the other side...Faith No More were playing indeed that style a long time before. Whereas the grunge has IMO a really big influence in NuMetal. It's like mixing FNM with Grunge and you get the worst sound ever called metal...

stevelovesmoonspell · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:59 pm

TheMetalWarrior316 wrote:

Seinfeld26 wrote:

This should make for an interesting debate.

Korn is often credited as the band that pioneered nu-metal with their self-titled album in 1994. But considering the fact that their self-titled album was really more of a punk/hardcore-influenced hip hop record than a metal record, would you necessarily agree with this? [...]

Is NuMetal not a punk/hardcore/metal hip hop crossover style? Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Papa Roach...all the same shit.

On the other side...Faith No More were playing indeed that style a long time before. Whereas the grunge has IMO a really big influence in NuMetal. It's like mixing FNM with Grunge and you get the worst sound ever called metal...

you seriously don't know what you mean when you say "hardcore punk influence" do you dude? Please proceed to the nearest meat grinder and hurl yourself into it. If Korn had the slightest hint of Crog Mag like speed or Merauder like intensity then you could say they were hardcore influenced but no. All we have are "TWISTED TRANSISTOR" and those abhorrently down tuned guitars. They sound more like bees buzzing then any kind of music

Goat · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:01 pm

I think he means like
Blink 182 or something
Shitty like that LOL

Radagast · **Posted:** Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:15 pm

Zad are you trying to post in Haikus or something?

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