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Dead Machine
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| rio wrote: | Man, I'd take Chimaira over GDoW any day. Not that I don't enjoy the latter, but on Chimaira there's more variety, and the same hyperactive riffs without the goofy spoken parts. (I find them goofy throughout the whole record) I love "You Must Fail" so much... Those bendy guitar harmony lines are hypnotic!
I think the spoken parts sound better on WLA, although I only have a few mp3s, not the whole album. But I love Mayhem: They have a really warped "arthouse" feel to their later stuff that you can't find anywhere else. |
...more variety? Please, there's only two good songs (title track, You Must Fail) and the rest sound like In The Lies Whereupon You Lay minus 99% of the awesomeness. There's much more variety in Grand Declaration. |
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rio
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| Dead Machine wrote: | | rio wrote: | Man, I'd take Chimaira over GDoW any day. Not that I don't enjoy the latter, but on Chimaira there's more variety, and the same hyperactive riffs without the goofy spoken parts. (I find them goofy throughout the whole record) I love "You Must Fail" so much... Those bendy guitar harmony lines are hypnotic!
I think the spoken parts sound better on WLA, although I only have a few mp3s, not the whole album. But I love Mayhem: They have a really warped "arthouse" feel to their later stuff that you can't find anywhere else. |
...more variety? Please, there's only two good songs (title track, You Must Fail) and the rest sound like In The Lies Whereupon You Lay minus 99% of the awesomeness. There's much more variety in Grand Declaration. |
Yeah, more variety. If you don't like the tracks I'm not going to try to change your mind, but I think there's more noticeable differences track to track on Chimaira. |
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Dead Machine
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| rio wrote: | | Yeah, more variety. If you don't like the tracks I'm not going to try to change your mind, but I think there's more noticeable differences track to track on Chimaira. |
That works. |
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Zadok
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Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
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rio
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Zad wrote: | | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway. |
Really? I find the later stuff to be amongst the tightest I've heard in BM. Pretty complex, but flawlessly executed. I find their sound and aesthetic to be right at the other end of the BM spectrum to Burzum's, as well. Early Mayhem has a hard riffing rock 'n' roll approach, and late Mayhem has a lot of explosive hyper-twisty blast riffing (as I like to describe it  ). None of this with Varg...
I'm hungry. |
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| Zad wrote: | | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway. |
Are you talking about the vocals? Euronymous had some of the tightest riffing around, hardly amateurish. |
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Zadok
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| HumanTorch wrote: | | Zad wrote: | | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway. |
Are you talking about the vocals? Euronymous had some of the tightest riffing around, hardly amateurish. |
I haven't heard much new Mayhem, admittedly. But the earlier stuff's awful shit. |
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Radagast
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, Euronymous' riffing obviously has nothing to do with the new stuff. |
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deathkvlt
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I used to think that DmDS was insanely overrated, but now I can see the magnificence of this monumental album. The atmosphere, the riffing, the sheer darkness.
New Mayhem I hate. I KNOW Helhammer can play extremely fast and do insane fills, I KNOW Blasphemer can play fast and technical... I mean, there's no doubt these guys are amazing musicians, but Black Metal isn't about that. Their music might be complex and elaborate, but BM isn't about that, BM is about atmosphere, emotion and depth, and new Mayhem lacks all of these. Not to mention Maniac is one of the worst vocalists ever.
And Euro wrote some of the best BM riffs ever... they sound so morbid and satanic. |
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North From Here
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I just played Wolf's Liar Abyss recently for the first time in about 2 years. I forgot just how cool "Fall of Seraphs" is. Excellent track. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| deathkvlt wrote: | | And Euro wrote some of the best BM riffs ever... they sound so morbid and satanic. |
I would just say some of the best riffs ever, period! |
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Radical Cut
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| emperorblackdoom wrote: | | I just played Wolf's Liar Abyss recently for the first time in about 2 years. I forgot just how cool "Fall of Seraphs" is. Excellent track. |
Yap. |
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toolazytofindaname
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Zad wrote: | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
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Kathaarian
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| toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Zad wrote: | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
By that comment we all understand that you're the retard with a keyboard. |
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Dead Machine
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: |
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| toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
If idiocy was gasoline, then you'd burn like a Roman candle. |
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lizardtail
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Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
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| Kathaarian wrote: | | toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Zad wrote: | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
By that comment we all understand that you're the retard with a keyboard. |
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Radical Cut
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| Dead Machine wrote: | | toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
If idiocy was gasoline, then you'd burn like a Roman candle. |
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belethor
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| toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Zad wrote: | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
What would that make you, then?
Burzum >>>>> you. |
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Jürgen
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| belethor wrote: | | toolazytofindaname wrote: | | Zad wrote: | Never really liked Mayhem. Too amateurish, and is it true about copying Burzum? Varg's crew are a lot better than Attilla's, anyway.
Roll. |
Varg is just another retard with a keyboard.... |
What would that make you, then?
Burzum >>>>> you. |
V.?!? |
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