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metalgod MetalReviews Staff

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:38 pm Post subject: 'Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures (#6434)' |
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Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Post-Punk/New Wave
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garrixon Metal Slave

Joined: 21 Jun 2010 Posts: 83 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| One of the greatest albums of all time, my favorite album of the seventies. Without Joy Division, Bauhaus, and Siouxsie and the Banshees the metal scene today would be a hell of a lot different. There'd be no gothic metal and I doubt that that black metal would be as dark as it is without those bands. Definitely a classic and influential enough to be on the site plus it's a great review. |
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warfleloup Metal Lord

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm disturbed how a Joy Division got a classic status albeit a deserved one when a Deep Purple album gets a 81...  |
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Thomas MetalReviews Staff

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, get the fuck over it, you like the album better than I do. |
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Zadok MetalReviews Staff

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Deep Purple do already have three classics, with doubtless more to come. Should every one of their albums be classic'd? This might be a divisive choice, but like Garrixon said, it is quite a foundation for modern rock and metal, and was discussed by the team prior to implementation. _________________ |
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warfleloup Metal Lord

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, in Belgium we call this music cold wave.
And I didn't say it was not an important album, it clearly is. I just think it had far enough exposure already. |
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Milan Einherjar

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| warfleloup wrote: | | By the way, in Belgium we call this music cold wave. |
We do?
I never listened to Joy Division, I only know them by name and that they were an important new wave band. It's just that I've never heard of the term "cold wave". So you might be right, I don't know. |
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traptunderice Ist Krieg

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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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| dark wave? Awesome album which I haven't given nearly enough focus to. I approve this choice. Very influential in my eyes even if it isn't 'true' or 'kvlt', whatever asshat phrase people want to use. |
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warfleloup Metal Lord

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Milan wrote: | | warfleloup wrote: | | By the way, in Belgium we call this music cold wave. |
We do?
I never listened to Joy Division, I only know them by name and that they were an important new wave band. It's just that I've never heard of the term "cold wave". So you might be right, I don't know. |
Are you from Flanders?
In Wallonie we call this cold wave but that could be derived from what the French say...  |
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Milan Einherjar

Joined: 22 Dec 2009 Posts: 2233 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| warfleloup wrote: | | Milan wrote: | | warfleloup wrote: | | By the way, in Belgium we call this music cold wave. |
We do?
I never listened to Joy Division, I only know them by name and that they were an important new wave band. It's just that I've never heard of the term "cold wave". So you might be right, I don't know. |
Are you from Flanders?
In Wallonie we call this cold wave but that could be derived from what the French say...  |
Yes I am, although it's only a ten minute drive to get to Wallonia. I live very close to Hélécine, if you know where that is.
I don't listen to new wave, so I have absolutely no idea which terms are used in the genre, etc. But I'll give it a shot, who knows I might even like it. |
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Adveser Einherjar
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: |
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New Wave in itself has spanned so many names of subgenres that mostly didn't exist when those albums were released.
It makes Metal sub-genres look sensible and highly accurate. |
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Legacy Of The Night Ist Krieg

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Boring. |
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noodles Ist Krieg

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| Legacy Of The Night wrote: | | Boring. |
srsly |
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warfleloup Metal Lord

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Milan wrote: | | warfleloup wrote: | | Milan wrote: | | warfleloup wrote: | | By the way, in Belgium we call this music cold wave. |
We do?
I never listened to Joy Division, I only know them by name and that they were an important new wave band. It's just that I've never heard of the term "cold wave". So you might be right, I don't know. |
Are you from Flanders?
In Wallonie we call this cold wave but that could be derived from what the French say...  |
Yes I am, although it's only a ten minute drive to get to Wallonia. I live very close to Hélécine, if you know where that is.
I don't listen to new wave, so I have absolutely no idea which terms are used in the genre, etc. But I'll give it a shot, who knows I might even like it. |
Source wikipedia:
Coldwave, also written as Cold Wave, is the French variant of Dark Wave, Gothic rock and Post-punk music, primarily spread in France, South Belgium and Romandy.
That explains everything. |
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Jeff@Metalreviews MetalReviews Staff

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not familiar with this band and really can't comment as to whether or not it deserves classic status. But if many consider this to be the beginning of something that influenced countless other artists than that could be a very valid reason for the classic stamp. I even think Gary Numan's "Pleasure Principle" deserves classic status as that was a big influence on what we now know as Industrial Metal. |
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Cú Chulainn Ist Krieg

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| garrixon wrote: | | One of the greatest albums of all time, my favorite album of the seventies. Without Joy Division, Bauhaus, and Siouxsie and the Banshees the metal scene today would be a hell of a lot different. There'd be no gothic metal and I doubt that that black metal would be as dark as it is without those bands. Definitely a classic and influential enough to be on the site plus it's a great review. |
Thanks, glad you like it. It was a pleasure to write. |
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warfleloup Metal Lord

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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Do Cure's Disintegration now... It has recently been reissued. |
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Psychotron Metal Servant
Joined: 21 Jul 2010 Posts: 101 Location: Inverness, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:56 am Post subject: |
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| A thoroughly deserved classic in my opinion. One of my all time favourite non metal albums. |
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cry of the banshee Ist Krieg

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Pretty decent album... post punk, BTW.
They inspired a lot of coldwave bands, but they are pretty much at the post punk vanguard.
If you like this, check out early Clair Obscur. |
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cry of the banshee Ist Krieg

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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Jeff@Metalreviews wrote: | | ...I even think Gary Numan's "Pleasure Principle" deserves classic status as that was a big influence on what we now know as Industrial Metal. |
I don't know about deserving "classic" status, but The Pleasure Principle is a very good and underappreciated album, even better than Replicas, which is itself very good and underappreciated. |
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