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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:07 am    Post subject: EASY dynamic mic fixes Reply with quote

This one's for the fellow singers, producers and other kinds of people that capture sound. I recently mentioned the idea that I wanted to try to make multiple dynamic mics viable for voice recordings. I think I have a good idea about how to do this.

I'm not the first to figure this out because it is too simple to do.

Okay, so you have your microphone and do not like it's tone. Your voice is a little too low or high and the model you have does not sit well in the mix. Go ahead and take the screen off of it. Below the diaphragm, on the side, you will see a number of box shaped openings. These are tuning ports. They are covered with a breathable adhesive material. DO NOT TAKE THIS OFF. If you do so, the mic is finished and will never work properly again because a lot of times the ultra-thin wire leads to the diaphragmare sitting in a small gap right behind it. The super tiny PCB board that goes to the XLR jack is possibly being held in place by the tape too.

Say you want a warmer sound? take the thinnest needle you can find and gently rock it until you poke a very small hole in this porous paper. You must do this on equal 180 degree turns. I put three holes in each of the four slots in my mic and I am getting warmth that tube amps dream of. I suggest stuffing extra foam in the grill because a deep voice will cause mechanical resonance to the point that you can hear the offending note playback through the microphone. Eventually that is going to overheat if you do nothing about it, so be cautious and adjust slowly. I'm actually now able to capture (my) voice producing one half of a Hz, 1Hz wave forms and up to C(-2). I've been dicking around and having a blast. Range is up to 15 octaves now at the very least! Insane! If you slowly nudge the lowest part of your voice and keep the path to your resonances free and clear and keep very steady pressure it is not all that hard to do this. A 1Hz vocal note sounds like a heartbeat and you can feel the waveform gently open and close your lips as very quiet pop sound comes out. The recording sounds like the mother of all storms from hell though once boosted.

You want faster Bass? Tighter and sharper snare hits? a more focused sound, do this, AT THE COST OF FREQUENCY RESPONSE RANGE. Take a small piece of electrical tape and cover one of the tuning ports. Now gently, using any sort of small tool that willgive a consistent shape, such as a 1/4" stereo/balanced input jack begin pushing the tape inwards. You want to do it again on it's 180d axis on both sides. You can't completely seal this though, it will cause a delayed echo.

What is going on is that the longer it takes the air pressure to diffuse, the more counterpressure at opposite phase is occuring and it lessens the ability to vibrate freely. The whole thing may be another application of the damping factor or bass porting in speakers.

You must be patient though and carefully paying attention to the symmetry and realize tiny physically changes are going to be amplified on the order of millions of times the signal size, if you are adventurous, you can make it purposely off-axis. Remember, a net positive bias means faster thinner sound and less distortion (almost an application of negative feedback assuming multiple mics and a negative net bias means heavier, more analogue type distortion, but less clarity in the pitch of notes.

Again, I would definitely apply this technique to recording with multiple microphones due to proximity effect. There is a shitload of room to be creative.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that's how it's done.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: EASY dynamic mic fixes Reply with quote

Adveser wrote:
This one's for the fellow singers, producers and other kinds of people that capture sound. I recently mentioned the idea that I wanted to try to make multiple dynamic mics viable for voice recordings. I think I have a good idea about how to do this.

I'm not the first to figure this out because it is too simple to do.

Okay, so you have your microphone and do not like it's tone. Your voice is a little too low or high and the model you have does not sit well in the mix. Go ahead and take the screen off of it. Below the diaphragm, on the side, you will see a number of box shaped openings. These are tuning ports. They are covered with a breathable adhesive material. DO NOT TAKE THIS OFF. If you do so, the mic is finished and will never work properly again because a lot of times the ultra-thin wire leads to the diaphragmare sitting in a small gap right behind it. The super tiny PCB board that goes to the XLR jack is possibly being held in place by the tape too.

Say you want a warmer sound? take the thinnest needle you can find and gently rock it until you poke a very small hole in this porous paper. You must do this on equal 180 degree turns. I put three holes in each of the four slots in my mic and I am getting warmth that tube amps dream of. I suggest stuffing extra foam in the grill because a deep voice will cause mechanical resonance to the point that you can hear the offending note playback through the microphone. Eventually that is going to overheat if you do nothing about it, so be cautious and adjust slowly. I'm actually now able to capture (my) voice producing one half of a Hz, 1Hz wave forms and up to C(-2). I've been dicking around and having a blast. Range is up to 15 octaves now at the very least! Insane! If you slowly nudge the lowest part of your voice and keep the path to your resonances free and clear and keep very steady pressure it is not all that hard to do this. A 1Hz vocal note sounds like a heartbeat and you can feel the waveform gently open and close your lips as very quiet pop sound comes out. The recording sounds like the mother of all storms from hell though once boosted.

You want faster Bass? Tighter and sharper snare hits? a more focused sound, do this, AT THE COST OF FREQUENCY RESPONSE RANGE. Take a small piece of electrical tape and cover one of the tuning ports. Now gently, using any sort of small tool that willgive a consistent shape, such as a 1/4" stereo/balanced input jack begin pushing the tape inwards. You want to do it again on it's 180d axis on both sides. You can't completely seal this though, it will cause a delayed echo.

What is going on is that the longer it takes the air pressure to diffuse, the more counterpressure at opposite phase is occuring and it lessens the ability to vibrate freely. The whole thing may be another application of the damping factor or bass porting in speakers.

You must be patient though and carefully paying attention to the symmetry and realize tiny physically changes are going to be amplified on the order of millions of times the signal size, if you are adventurous, you can make it purposely off-axis. Remember, a net positive bias means faster thinner sound and less distortion (almost an application of negative feedback assuming multiple mics and a negative net bias means heavier, more analogue type distortion, but less clarity in the pitch of notes.

Again, I would definitely apply this technique to recording with multiple microphones due to proximity effect. There is a shitload of room to be creative.


But will it generate the 1.21 gigawatts of power we need to travel back into time doc?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ull I sed wuz U can change da bass it holds
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be rude or anything Adveser, but I think you´d should take this to a tech forum. Nobody here knows what you´re talking about, and you obviously sit on a great deal of knowledge. This stuff won´t yield any proper discussion on this forum. Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and secondly because there are several dickheads here that want to take a piss at you every chance they get.

Just a piece of friendly advice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


I'm surprised you still take Adveser (or Ken, for that matter) remotely seriously anymore.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


He doesn't come across as arrogant or anything like that to me. Just someone who is, uh, how to put this politely, not all there in the head.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emperorblackdoom wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


I'm surprised you still take Adveser (or Ken, for that matter) remotely seriously anymore.


Yeah, I´m surprised anyone actually minds.

Being an asshole back doesn´t solve anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

belowthelights wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


He doesn't come across as arrogant or anything like that to me. Just someone who is, uh, how to put this politely, not all there in the head.


Hmmm obviously you never read where he compared his voice to Daniel Heimen.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emperorblackdoom wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


I'm surprised you still take Adveser (or Ken, for that matter) remotely seriously anymore.


Who said I did? If I did you would've gotten a different response from me. I just gave a reason why some(or at least me)joke it up when he starts threads or posts.

And as far as Ken who here takes him seriously anymore
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take you all very, very seriously.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drunk, sir?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're all assholes. Especially Thomas and his new boy toy Adveser.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I miss you :(
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas wrote:
Being an asshole back doesn´t solve anything.

But it sure is fun.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas wrote:
I miss you :(


And I you.
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Drunk, sir?


Me? Never.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MetalStorm wrote:
belowthelights wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Thomas wrote:
Firstly because nobody knows jack shit, and


It's not that we don't know jack shit(or jill shit or any other shits)it's because Adveser comes across as an arrogant know it all narcissistic prick who thinks he's above everyone because he has a golden voice and knows so so so much about music production so guess what we're going to take a stab at him because of it. It's mostly just joking around but overall if he doesn't want us poking fun at him than he needs to be a little bit more docile in his approach.


He doesn't come across as arrogant or anything like that to me. Just someone who is, uh, how to put this politely, not all there in the head.


Hmmm obviously you never read where he compared his voice to Daniel Heimen.


He doesn't even sound like that. I think it's a studio creation because his live tone is gruff when he isn't using whistles or yelling to the crowd to avoid high notes. His live singing is completely inferior. Marco Hietala is a much better singer than he is and has a bigger range at that and far more power. Marco's high notes are so crisp there is no doubt in my mind he can whistle, he chooses not to because it isn't necessary. By the way whistles are the admission you can't hit the note in question any other way. I'm not saying he sucks, I'm saying there are better than him all day long.
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