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Azrael Jeg lever med min foreldre

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5826 Location: São Paulo and Lisboa
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Euro and european stocks are down. that's fucking stupid. austerity is doing nothing for job creation and growth in Europe, so maybe the markets could perhaps let governments give the alternative a chance? |
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traptunderice Ist Krieg

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12828 Location: Manassas VA
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Azrael wrote: | | Euro and european stocks are down. that's fucking stupid. austerity is doing nothing for job creation and growth in Europe, so maybe the markets could perhaps let governments give the alternative a chance? | Stocks don't represent reality of what works and what doesn't. They support and push certain programs that create them profits. Stocks reflect what helps the stocks grow and not the country's own well-being.
Hollande on race in the French constitution: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/03/10/uk-france-hollande-race-idUKBRE8290FT20120310
Sounds like a fucking stupid idea. As if the lack of the word race in the constitution will end racial tension. I really think this is post-racial bullshit that fails to see the struggles of race any differently than conservative ideology that disavows race. Cutting the word 'race' seems no different than the conservative argument that liberals always talking about race creates problems of race. Both are stupid in my book. _________________ http://www.last.fm/user/traptunderice |
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Azrael Jeg lever med min foreldre

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 5826 Location: São Paulo and Lisboa
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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i know, i was expressing frustration at the market's view of things. i swear, people probably think "oh it's going to go down so i'm shorting the euro and the CAC 40 and the PSI 20 and eurozone government bonds anything else euro-related that i can think of" instead of stopping to think exactly how these changes will affect the underlying economies and the performance of companies listed in the region.
i really don't think austerity, at least the way it's being dished out now, is helping. unemployment, bankruptcies and foreclosures are still rising in Portugal. VAT is higher, and for what? i read some projection claiming that the state will actually make LESS VAT because of the hike! so where will the growth come from?
i agree that we need a deleveraging, i do not agree that this is the way to accomplish it.
just hope Hollande doesn't go all populist and go and increase the minimum wage or something. |
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The Annoying Frenchman Einherjar

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3045 Location: En France, mon ami !
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: |
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He will increase the minimum wage, not sufficiently enough though. And it need to be done in a country where rental prices have gone off the roof, where social security has dramatically decreased the reimboursments... And, most of all, in a world where the benefit of labour go to bankers, traders and speculators rather than those actually building or growing things.
The world has gone mad, I doub Hollande can change that but I'm sure he'll do better than N.S. |
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Karmakosmonaut Karma Whore

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 3487 Location: Flanders, Southern Netherlands
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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The friendly neighbourhood maghrebins of France are obviously very glad a socialist won:
For the non-french literate among us: all of those people are proudly declaring their beloved Islam will fuck over the hated France. |
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Cú Chulainn Ist Krieg

Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Aberdeen
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The left needs to stop pandering to Islam if it's to maintain relevance and respect in a modern, multicultural society. I consider myself very leftist, but the parties need to realize that appeasing Islam does not follow leftist thought. |
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The Annoying Frenchman Einherjar

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3045 Location: En France, mon ami !
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Karmakosmonaut wrote: | The friendly neighbourhood maghrebins of France are obviously very glad a socialist won:
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For the non-french literate among us: all of those people are proudly declaring their beloved Islam will fuck over the hated France. |
They're just idiots. Chill out, Adolf.  |
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Bruce_Bitenfils Destroyer ov Spambots

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3035 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Karmakosmonaut wrote: |
For the non-french literate among us: all of those people are proudly declaring their beloved Islam will fuck over the hated France. |
This is not written in french.
Or is it Canadian-french maybe, I don't know.
edit : and yes, they're just stupid kids. |
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Zadok MetalReviews Staff

Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 29819 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Not to be nice to socialists, but it's not like Sarkozy chased the anti-immigrant vote or anything. _________________ |
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Bruce_Bitenfils Destroyer ov Spambots

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3035 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Goat wrote: | | Not to be nice to socialists, but |
Socialism is not a desease, you know? At least not *entirely*.
| Quote: | | but it's not like Sarkozy chased the anti-immigrant vote or anything. |
Right? Right?! It's like the guy WANTED to lose. Understandable when you know a former Prez here can earn 15000+ euros/month by doing virtually nothing if he plays it right (seriously, I'm not joking, we're THAT fucked up.) |
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dead1 Einherjar
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Australian Federal Budget:
So what do you do when your economy is slowing down, consumer/business sentiment is low, your manufacturing and agricultural export sectors are suffocating due to a high exchange rate, government tax receipts are in freefall and the only sector of your economy that is functioning is mining
a.) You introduce a tax on mining profits
b.) You introduce a carbon tax
c.) You do not reduce corporate taxes as promised.
d.) You cut government expenditure
e.) You dole out billions of tax in cash handouts to mask the other more important blunders you've made.
f.) All of the above
Correct answer is f.).
So despite all conventional knowledge, the Australian federal government has introduced a budget that will cut expenditure and increase taxation at a time when the economy needs stimulus and lower taxation to kick start the economy. |
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The Annoying Frenchman Einherjar

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3045 Location: En France, mon ami !
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| Bruce_Bitenfils wrote: | | Goat wrote: | | Not to be nice to socialists, but |
Socialism is not a desease, you know? At least not *entirely*.
| Quote: | | but it's not like Sarkozy chased the anti-immigrant vote or anything. |
Right? Right?! It's like the guy WANTED to lose. Understandable when you know a former Prez here can earn 15000+ euros/month by doing virtually nothing if he plays it right (seriously, I'm not joking, we're THAT fucked up.) |
Actually, if he accepts the postion on the Constitutional Council, he'll earn around 17,000€ a month ($22,000) of which 11,000 will not be submited to taxation. The rest comes from his pension as an ex-president (6,000€). |
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Zadok MetalReviews Staff

Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 29819 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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We throw money at our ex-PMs, too.
| Quote: | | Figures revealed by the Cabinet Office minister, Francis Maude, in response to a written parliamentary question by the Conservative MP Philip Hollobone, show that Thatcher has received £535,000 from the state since 2006, and John Major, who set up the allowance in 1991, has received £490,000. Tony Blair has claimed since 2007 and received £273,000. The figures reveal he received £169,076 in 2008-9, more than his salary in office. |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/oct/28/margaret-thatcher-expenses-claim _________________ |
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Zadok MetalReviews Staff

Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 29819 Location: Manchester, UK
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Bruce_Bitenfils Destroyer ov Spambots

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3035 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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"We’re also part of the European Union. The EU, which has 26 other members, is basically a cross between NAFTA, the UN, Thanksgiving with the in-laws, a system of committees designed by a committee, a litigious travelling circus, and Belgium. This is the sort of thing that happens to you when you’re not a superpower.
Otherwise, though, everything’s the same as in the US. Except that we don’t have an Electoral College: we’re not crazy, you know."
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Karmakosmonaut Karma Whore

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 3487 Location: Flanders, Southern Netherlands
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Bruce_Bitenfils wrote: | | Karmakosmonaut wrote: |
For the non-french literate among us: all of those people are proudly declaring their beloved Islam will fuck over the hated France. |
This is not written in french.
Or is it Canadian-french maybe, I don't know.
edit : and yes, they're just stupid kids. |
Regardless of how you would describe it, it's what is happening to your once-vaunted language. Not exactly a Lingua Franca anymore, eh?  |
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noodles Ist Krieg

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 13380 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| "les shinoi" cracked me up |
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Bruce_Bitenfils Destroyer ov Spambots

Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 3035 Location: Paris, France
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Karmakosmonaut wrote: | | Bruce_Bitenfils wrote: | | Karmakosmonaut wrote: |
For the non-french literate among us: all of those people are proudly declaring their beloved Islam will fuck over the hated France. |
This is not written in french.
Or is it Canadian-french maybe, I don't know.
edit : and yes, they're just stupid kids. |
Regardless of how you would describe it, it's what is happening to your once-vaunted language. Not exactly a Lingua Franca anymore, eh?  |
You know, our language has always been butchered by its own users. Countless White-Christian-Frencher-than-thou are desecrating it as I'm writing this*. Dumb people are what they are: dumb. Whether they have been here for generations, or they are coming from elsewhere.
* a good chunk of them vote Le Pen, by the way. Ha! The irony. |
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noodles Ist Krieg

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Zadok MetalReviews Staff

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