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Rhys Jeg lever med min foreldre

Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 5085 Location: Upon the high horse of self-destruction
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:52 pm Post subject: Finnish Black Metal |
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Is this the most underrated scene in the world?
Cosmic Church, Horna, Circle of Ouroborus, Raate, Blood Red Fog, Foudre Noire, Saturnian Mist, Satanic Warmaster, Sargeist, Funerary Bell, Verge, Beherit, rarely hear anyone talk of any of these bands, while going bananas for everything that comes out of France and the Ukraine.
tl;dr - discuss Finnish bm. |
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Karmakosmonaut Karma Whore

Joined: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 3489 Location: Flanders, Southern Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry for the additional namedrop, but ...and Oceans is one of my favourite bands of all time. Moonsorrow is a different flavour, but could be counted among the great Finnish bm bands as well. |
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traptunderice Ist Krieg

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12832 Location: Manassas VA
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Define Infinity Karma Whore
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Apart from some bands in the Finnish scene, I found most of the other stuff a derivative of say bands like Darkthrone and Immortal. The former goes for Horna and the latter for Azaghal. One only has to listen to the last two Azaghal albums to realize what a rip off they are from Immortal. Or the same goes for Horna, very reminiscent of Darkthrone. Although there are some bands that are trying to make original music and I appreciate that. The fact of the matter is, it is sometimes very hard to make traditional BM and not sound like the bands that originated them in the first place; nonetheless, one finds European bands creating very original music that goes to a very sophisticated route of their former influences. |
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traptunderice Ist Krieg

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Define Infinity wrote: | | nonetheless, one finds European bands creating very original music that goes to a very sophisticated route of their former influences. | i.e., the French bands, right? _________________ http://www.last.fm/user/traptunderice |
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Kathaarian Ist Krieg

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| When Horna, Sargeist, Wyrd, Behexen, Baptism and Satanic Warmarster were at the top of their game, about 6-7 years ago, Finnish bm was arguably the best one at the time. In time they fell under the radar. The releases got worse too. The French kept releasing quality stuff since then and are obviously the best right now. |
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North From Here Jeg lever med min foreldre
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 5315 Location: USoA
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Kathaarian wrote: | | The releases got worse too. The French kept releasing quality stuff since then and are obviously the best right now. |
I see nothing about French black metal that makes it clearly the best right now. |
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Kathaarian Ist Krieg

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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| emperorblackdoom wrote: | | Kathaarian wrote: | | The releases got worse too. The French kept releasing quality stuff since then and are obviously the best right now. |
I see nothing about French black metal that makes it clearly the best right now. |
Three letters. DsO. |
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Define Infinity Karma Whore
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 4179 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| traptunderice wrote: | | Define Infinity wrote: | | nonetheless, one finds European bands creating very original music that goes to a very sophisticated route of their former influences. | i.e., the French bands, right? |
Most definitely. Kathy mentioned the obvious DsO. Also a band like Aosoth is another example. Another great example of European BM from a Swedish origin is a band like Watain. |
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huskerc7 Einherjar
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Sargeist is great. Horna is great to. Sargeist really outdid themselves with Let The Devil In. |
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North From Here Jeg lever med min foreldre
Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 5315 Location: USoA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Kathaarian wrote: | | emperorblackdoom wrote: | | Kathaarian wrote: | | The releases got worse too. The French kept releasing quality stuff since then and are obviously the best right now. |
I see nothing about French black metal that makes it clearly the best right now. |
Three letters. DsO. |
Nope.
I like DsO, but nope. |
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Rhys Jeg lever med min foreldre

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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Heh, the finnish scene maybe somewhat derivative, but they do it well, really fucking well. And some of the newer bands have their own kind of sound imo, wouldn't describe Funerary Bell, Raate, Blood Red Fog or Saturnian Mist as darkthrone clones.
Anyway, the French scene is starting to disappear inside it's own dissonance. DsO are still ok, and Aosoth are good but derivative, but the DsO sound is getting copied way too much at imo. |
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