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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: 'Iron Maiden - The X Factor (#3922)' Reply with quote

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Iron Maiden - The X Factor
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pick! Unlike you I don't see a problem with the production as i think it suits the album well, and i would add "Judgement of Heaven" as a killer song, but otherwise it was a good review, i feel you summed it up quite well. This is a darker and more serious album and it different for Maiden, but it still suites them i think. They've always had a more serious side to them and here was an opportunity for them to explore that side further, and it works well. I'd take this album over Fear of the Dark and No Prayer any day, and even over some of the early albums too.

Bad points of the album is that some songs like you mentioned lack some of the sincerity of the other songs, and it becomes a bit embarrassing to listen to them. Other songs towards the end are kind of slow, but i actually appreciate all the songs on here. I guess it might be an aquired taste.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the reviewer. Neither this nor Virtual XI were bad albums by any means, in fact they are very good. It's easy to understand people's frustration though and I could have felt the same way back then.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wellwell, this is maidens downpoint in my opinion...but that does not nescesarilly mean it is a bad album... i enjoy listen to this... virtual XI is better though
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the general sentiment in this review- this is an excellent, underrated album and a nice dark style for Maiden. Virtual XI sucks balls, but this one's a winner and better than No Prayer and Fear- and Blaze does a damn good job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best Maiden album ever. I'd elaborate, but it's 2:56am.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the first Maiden album I ever bought, way back when it first came out. I loved the dark tone of it. There's a few stinkers to be found, like, Blood on the World's Hands, The Unbeliever, and Fortunes of War grates on my nerves at the end. The rest of the album is truly great, and I'll agree that it's better than FOTD and NPFTD. Blaze, while a good singer, really was an odd choice for the band and I can see why many rejected him at first. An underrated album to be sure, and if you wrote this off the first time around you really should give it a second chance. Virtual XI blows massive amounts of ass indeed though.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: FINALLY!!!! Reply with quote

FINALLY some justice for this wonderful underrated masterpiece!!

best album of nineties
best since senveth son
best metal album of that horrid time when the genre almost died
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Facts first:
- Blaze is no Bruce, never will be....nor should he.

- This album and AMOLAD go hand in hand.

- The lyrics are awesome.

- The production is REALLY weak.

- Virtual XI sucks

The X Factor is pretty much the most underrated album of the Maiden catalog in my opinion (along with Dance of Death). At the time it came out, I understand why people were pissed off. Blaze style is so different than Bruce's, and since Bruce is a god, the shoes were impossible to fill.

That's not to say Blaze is a bad singer by any means. But, you just can't replace Bruce Dickinson. The only way it could have worked was if you would replace him with another icon (ex: Halford).

Anyway, back to the point. This album never got the credit it deserves. It's not an album where you can pick classics. It's not an album you put in the background. It's an album that needs you to imerge yourself in it. Put the headphones, take the booklets and read the lyrics. That's really the strong point here. That's the only way you can understand what The X Factor is all about.

The major problem is the production and the playing. As with Virtual Xi and AMOLAD, you don't feel the instruments. The guitars are weak and in the back of the mix...as if the guys were on a hangover playing with not much energy. Just pick Brave New World a second and listen to the first chords...BAM !! In your face ! Passion and energy !! But, who can blame the guys at that point in their careers. Classic Heavy Music was dead at this point in the 90's.

Bottom line, don't let th eproduction turn you off. Pick the album and give it another spin ! You'll love it.

8/10
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had it's moments was this cd cd where most songs sounded the same at the start?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This review is easily the best and most accurate description of this underrated album. I couldnt have said it better myself.

So Bruce wasnt in the band at the time....boohoo. This album was basically written to suit Blaze's deeper and darker voice, and it worked perfectly. Even now when Bruce sings any songs from the Blaze era, they just dont sound right.

And I am one who thinks Virtual XI does not suck balls, infact it is just as good as the X-Factor, if not better. Remember, X-Factor does have those 2 very average songs at the end, and a poor way to end the album. Virtual XI however, does not have any songs which are as bad as those last 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trooper Of Steel wrote:
This review is easily the best and most accurate description of this underrated album. I couldnt have said it better myself.

So Bruce wasnt in the band at the time....boohoo. This album was basically written to suit Blaze's deeper and darker voice, and it worked perfectly. Even now when Bruce sings any songs from the Blaze era, they just dont sound right.

And I am one who thinks Virtual XI does not suck balls, infact it is just as good as the X-Factor, if not better. Remember, X-Factor does have those 2 very average songs at the end, and a poor way to end the album. Virtual XI however, does not have any songs which are as bad as those last 2.


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And tha'ts just one example
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And as far as stuff with Blaze go, Virus was a goddamned great single. That song just kicks ass.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eternal Idol wrote:
Trooper Of Steel wrote:
This review is easily the best and most accurate description of this underrated album. I couldnt have said it better myself.

So Bruce wasnt in the band at the time....boohoo. This album was basically written to suit Blaze's deeper and darker voice, and it worked perfectly. Even now when Bruce sings any songs from the Blaze era, they just dont sound right.

And I am one who thinks Virtual XI does not suck balls, infact it is just as good as the X-Factor, if not better. Remember, X-Factor does have those 2 very average songs at the end, and a poor way to end the album. Virtual XI however, does not have any songs which are as bad as those last 2.


Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
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And tha'ts just one example


Ya, Virtual XI took the repetitive chorus thing and went fucking insane. Such an annoying album- with generally bad songwriting too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, so much love for The X Factor around here. I agree with just about everything said in this topic thus far. This is fast becoming my favorite metal forum on the web.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These two CD's spawned two of Iron Maiden's greatest songs:

"The Clansman" and "Sign Of The Cross".

Was I personally happy with the departure of Bruce Dickinson? No, I wasn't. Blaze was in an impossible situation. How do you ever fill the shoes of someone like Bruce Dickinson? You don't. Blaze came in and gave it his own personal approach. That's all Steve Harris asked him to do or could expect Blaze to do.

I think that musically and lyrically the Blaze era was great. Did I miss Bruce? Of course I did. I also really missed the guitar work of Adrian Smith and his writing ability. However, I appreciate the Blaze era for what it was. Iron Maiden will always rule for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to see this album getting a high score. I would give it a score of 75/100. Man On The Edge and Sign Of The Cross are killer tracks. It also has one of my fav solo sections, the one in The Unbeliever. Amazing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eternal Idol wrote:

Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
repeat 6,000 more times

And tha'ts just one example


Awful track. Couple that with the funny chorus of Lightning Strikes Twice. "Lightning, lightning STRIKES TWICE !" Bwahahahahahahahaha ! But, Virtual XI also has some standout tracks, namely Futureal, The Clansman and the last track. I keep forgetting the name. Some Amigo something. Got the cd just a week or so back. Wonder what rating that album and No Prayer For The Dying would get on this site.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

como estais amigo? blah, cant stand it
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eternal Idol wrote:


Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
Don't you think I can save ya
Don't you think I'm a savior
repeat 6,000 more times

And tha'ts just one example

It's evident it was meant to be like that, totally intentional to suit the lyrical matter. Whats everyones problem with that song and that album, i dont get. Brave New World have just as repetetive choruses and songs. Listen to Nomad for hells sake, now thats an annoying song if ever they made one. I'd take Virtual XI over the dumb reunion album that is Brave New World anyday
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